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Re: I Challenge You To a Debate
« Reply #15 on: April 20, 2014, 09:28:40 AM »
"Yes I am. I am also a [Hindu], a Muslim, a Buddhist and a Jew" - Gandhi

And there you go. I might be interested in a debate on the existence of the god or gods of one of those religions, but I am not going to enter into a debate with a Christian that won't argue for their owe specific set of beliefs. What does it say about your faith if you are unwilling to argue the case for your own personal god?
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Offline AllPurposeAtheist

Re: I Challenge You To a Debate
« Reply #16 on: April 20, 2014, 11:33:51 AM »
I challenge you to a formal debate to STFU. Actually I don't really care to debate it, but I'm entitled to wishful thinking too.
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Offline Hakurei Reimu

Re: I Challenge You To a Debate
« Reply #17 on: April 20, 2014, 11:48:45 AM »
It is true that my debate partner and I will need to come to an agreement on the definition of God. I will first need a debate partner to discuss this with. Are there any challengers?
So what definition of "God" you debate over is going to be dependent on who decides to debate with you. Huh.

Yeah, I think it's clear to all of us that you don't have a clue what you mean by "God", yet you're going to debate us over it. What a dishonest cunt.

Mister Agenda and Hakurei Reimu seem like good candidates.
I don't debate dishonest cunts. Even were I to accept, I doubt it will make it past the preliminaries.
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Re: I Challenge You To a Debate
« Reply #18 on: April 20, 2014, 12:01:25 PM »
So what definition of "God" you debate over is going to be dependent on who decides to debate with you. Huh.

That's a typical bullshit ploy used by apologists... Keep the definition of God a moving target to keep him safe from reason.  In one moment this God is a first cause necessary for setting the Big Bang in motion that is so elemental and simple as to be plausible (to those who wish to delude themselves), but in the next moment this God is possessing of all manner of non-elemental properties such as the capacity for love, supreme intellect, interaction with humans, concern for human destiny, possessing of a plan for salvation and an active participant in the plan, etc., etc., etc.
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Re: I Challenge You To a Debate
« Reply #19 on: April 20, 2014, 01:39:49 PM »
It is true that my debate partner and I will need to come to an agreement on the definition of God.

Actually, you'll have to bring that. We don't even know what this god-thing is. You'll have to provide the definition and then we'll get to watch you change the definition when you get backed into a corner because you will kill your own children and eat their flesh before you admit you are wrong.

I don't see this thing happening. It's already happened too many times and it's depressing.

Offline Casparov (OP)

Re: I Challenge You To a Debate
« Reply #20 on: April 21, 2014, 01:19:11 AM »
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I am getting a whole lot of hostility just for requesting a debate...

Look people, I am simply interested in putting this section of your nice forum to use. You have a "The Debate Hall" and an empty section called "Formal Debates" which is supposed to be one-on-one and moderated. I am challenging you on your home turf to a fair fight and I'm getting attacked just for bringing up the subject... WTF? Why even have this section in your forum then???

OF COURSE there are people out there that disagree with you in the world. I am one of those people. This does not mean I am a piece of shit scum bag that you now have the right to kick face first into the mud and spit on. Regardless of whether or not you believe in god, what kind of a person does that just because someone disagrees with them? ATHEISTS!? ARe you serious?!?

I am interested in a one-on-one debate.

I know that as soon as I present a definition of "god' on this thread it will be instantly contended from all angles and 15 pages later I will have conducted informal debates with a large number of people and still have not organized an actual one-on-one formal debate. I have no problem presenting a definition for god, I have done so in my introduction thread already. http://atheistforums.com/index.php?topic=4329.30 This thread is not for that.

The purpose of this thread is to find a challenger, a moderator, and to hash out the rules and regulations of the debate. If we need to define the word "god" before the debate occurs that is fine, but I am not going to hash out the intricacies of a definition with 20 different people simultaneously in this thread. The person I debate and I can clarify and come to an agreement on a definition before the debate begins.

So who's going to step up to the plate and answer the challenge of the big scary theist?
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Re: I Challenge You To a Debate
« Reply #21 on: April 21, 2014, 01:37:23 AM »
I know that as soon as I present a definition of "god' on this thread it will be instantly contended from all angles
Because every definition you've ever given us is a load of horseshit that can be rejected out of hand, no debate required, bye bye, see you later. When you can offer something that is falsifiable, I'll debate you myself. Until then, as I stated in the beginning: There is nothing to debate.

Offline Casparov (OP)

Re: I Challenge You To a Debate
« Reply #22 on: April 21, 2014, 01:41:47 AM »
So what definition of "God" you debate over is going to be dependent on who decides to debate with you. Huh.

Yeah, I think it's clear to all of us that you don't have a clue what you mean by "God", yet you're going to debate us over it.

I have provided a concise definition of god no less than 5 separate times on this forum already. The definition of god I will defend is the exact same one. I simply refuse to debate it on this thread with all of you, though I have no problem presenting my definition to my challenger and refining based on his/her ease of understanding or communication whathaveyou, so that we have a mutual understanding of what we are debating over before we begin debating.

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What a dishonest cunt.
I don't debate dishonest cunts. Even were I to accept, I doubt it will make it past the preliminaries.

I'm sorry but after being called a "dishonest cunt" without provocation I withdraw my statement that you are good candidate. I seem to have mistaken you for a decent human being able to converse in a civilized manner with people who disagree with you.

I don't debate with people who lead with ad hominem attacks.
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Re: I Challenge You To a Debate
« Reply #23 on: April 21, 2014, 01:57:38 AM »
Call me a crazy optimist but I really feel like this debate is going to change some minds.

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Re: I Challenge You To a Debate
« Reply #24 on: April 21, 2014, 02:03:36 AM »
I don't debate with people who lead with ad hominem attacks.
Insults aren't ad hominem attacks, dipshit.

Online PickelledEggs

Re: I Challenge You To a Debate
« Reply #25 on: April 21, 2014, 02:21:52 AM »
I'm all for this debate. I say we do it. I just don't want to do it... and I don't know how to moderate a debate.

I don't think casparov suffers from the worst cognitive dissonance that I've ever seen. Who knows? He might be swayed a bit.

Can you imagine how good it would make everyone feel in this forum if we deconverted someone??? That would be fucking awesome. I'ts highly unlikely, but still. Casparov isn't an asshole or anything. A debate might be fun. Why do we have this debate section if we aren't going to use it?
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Re: I Challenge You To a Debate
« Reply #26 on: April 21, 2014, 05:35:48 AM »
How does the debate-section work anyways? Is it like a normal topic only open to two or three (moderater included) people? Or is it supposed to be face-to-face with webcams or something? Or is it like opening statement, picking apart eachother's opening statement, and then questions? Or ...
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Re: I Challenge You To a Debate
« Reply #27 on: April 21, 2014, 09:16:47 AM »
We could work out the format,  but only the two debating and the mod would be allowed to post in it

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Re: I Challenge You To a Debate
« Reply #28 on: April 21, 2014, 09:25:19 AM »

I am getting a whole lot of hostility just for requesting a debate...
Perhaps this is because you fit the profile of a troll. You may not actually be a troll, but "if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck and and shits through feathers, it's a duck."
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Re: I Challenge You To a Debate
« Reply #29 on: April 21, 2014, 10:27:27 AM »
:wtff:
I am getting a whole lot of hostility just for requesting a debate...


You're a theist. There is no debate. Just you being evasive, moving the goal post and generally being a frustrating little shit.

We're tired of it. You should be too, but your delusion apparently goes far enough that you don't even see how boring talking to you is.