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Offline Casparov (OP)

I Challenge You To a Debate
« on: April 18, 2014, 09:52:56 PM »
Hello,

I am challenging anyone who is up for it to a Formal Debate on the existence of God. We will need a moderator and a structured set of rules for the debate. This thread is for hashing out all of those details.

So who's game?
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Re: I Challenge You To a Debate
« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2014, 01:45:31 AM »
There's nothing to debate.

Offline SGOS

Re: I Challenge You To a Debate
« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2014, 07:22:13 AM »
We will need a moderator and a structured set of rules for the debate. This thread is for hashing out all of those details.
What we really need is your input on the forum's overall design.  Wolf has been working hard to put together a useable format, but I'm sure he would appreciate your input, since you seem to know all about stuff.

Re: I Challenge You To a Debate
« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2014, 07:37:12 AM »
Which perspective do you wish to argue?
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Re: I Challenge You To a Debate
« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2014, 10:52:23 AM »
One cannot have a logical debate unless the premises are agreed upon. This only results in an irrational quarrel and pissing contest. Solitary.
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Re: I Challenge You To a Debate
« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2014, 11:00:16 AM »
Hello,

I am challenging anyone who is up for it to a Formal Debate on the existence of God. We will need a moderator and a structured set of rules for the debate. This thread is for hashing out all of those details.

So who's game?

What's a god?

Re: I Challenge You To a Debate
« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2014, 12:29:37 PM »
Are you a Christian?
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Re: I Challenge You To a Debate
« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2014, 02:36:34 PM »
As the_antithesis pointed out, you have to outline your definition of a god or gods before you can start debating it's existence. Usually you'd do this based on observational evidence and discuss the significance of the evidence, but in this case there isn't any evidence so you don't have a starting point.

Re: I Challenge You To a Debate
« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2014, 07:04:40 PM »
As the_antithesis pointed out, you have to outline your definition of a god or gods before you can start debating it's existence.

More than that, I think. We say we don't believe in god, but that's not accurate. What we don't believe is theists when they tell us about this god-thing. So a theist asking to debate the existence of god is more a debate about why we find them to be untrustworthy, shiftless bastard and not accept every crazy piece of shit that comes out of their mouths without question.


Offline AllPurposeAtheist

Re: I Challenge You To a Debate
« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2014, 07:23:03 PM »
More than that, I think. We say we don't believe in god, but that's not accurate. What we don't believe is theists when they tell us about this god-thing. So a theist asking to debate the existence of god is more a debate about why we find them to be untrustworthy, shiftless bastard and not accept every crazy piece of shit that comes out of their mouths without question.


That's worked for them a long time now. I have a hunch they're going to stick to that format.
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Offline Casparov (OP)

Re: I Challenge You To a Debate
« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2014, 12:02:10 AM »
It is true that my debate partner and I will need to come to an agreement on the definition of God. I will first need a debate partner to discuss this with. Are there any challengers?

Mister Agenda and Hakurei Reimu seem like good candidates.

I will also need a moderator who will be fair and thorough. Are there any moderator candidates?
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Offline Casparov (OP)

Re: I Challenge You To a Debate
« Reply #11 on: April 20, 2014, 12:33:49 AM »
Which perspective do you wish to argue?

I will argue that god exists.
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Offline Casparov (OP)

Re: I Challenge You To a Debate
« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2014, 12:38:05 AM »
Are you a Christian?

"Yes I am. I am also a [Hindu], a Muslim, a Buddhist and a Jew" - Gandhi
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Re: I Challenge You To a Debate
« Reply #13 on: April 20, 2014, 08:24:10 AM »
It is true that my debate partner and I will need to come to an agreement on the definition of God. I will first need a debate partner to discuss this with. Are there any challengers?

Mister Agenda and Hakurei Reimu seem like good candidates.

I will also need a moderator who will be fair and thorough. Are there any moderator candidates?

Since you're the believer it's your burden to come up with the definition of god and to be as specific as possible. I don't know how you expect an atheist to help you define something that is only found in the imagination of believers. Why do you need someone to help you define what you believe in? Seems rather dishonest.

Re: I Challenge You To a Debate
« Reply #14 on: April 20, 2014, 09:19:09 AM »
I will argue that god exists.

That's going to be a short argument.
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