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Re: Present Evidence Here II
« Reply #735 on: January 04, 2020, 05:36:28 PM »
I can't put something under a microscope that does not exist.
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Re: Present Evidence Here II
« Reply #736 on: January 04, 2020, 05:59:34 PM »
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I can't put something under a microscope that does not exist.
But that's what you seem to keep saying and keep trying to do?

Re: Present Evidence Here II
« Reply #737 on: January 04, 2020, 06:02:04 PM »
I'm just trying to find out what the fuck you're talking about, but you just keep repeating the same drivel.
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Re: Present Evidence Here II
« Reply #738 on: January 04, 2020, 07:04:34 PM »
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I'm just trying to find out what the fuck you're talking about, but you just keep repeating the same drivel.
I'll give you the list of the names and attributes of God and go from there.

Maybe there will be more understanding.

Re: Present Evidence Here II
« Reply #739 on: January 04, 2020, 07:07:00 PM »
No, you won't. You'll keep driveling and will never say anything worth listening to. Go the fuck back wherever you came from. we don't need or want you here.
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Re: Present Evidence Here II
« Reply #740 on: January 04, 2020, 09:46:10 PM »
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Well unbeliever, you may think that they are just assertions because basically you just want to put God under a microscope, which you will never do.

The only thing we have to work with is the names and attributes.

Hence the "Logos".
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Re: Present Evidence Here II
« Reply #741 on: January 05, 2020, 12:03:39 PM »
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God best demonstration is the human being itself.
You'll never have "physical evidence" of God.
Which is why I do not accept claims of any god's existence.  If something exists, at the very least its effects can be measured reliably even when the thing itself cannot be observed directly.
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Re: Present Evidence Here II
« Reply #742 on: January 05, 2020, 12:06:10 PM »
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I'll give you the list of the names and attributes of God and go from there.

Maybe there will be more understanding.
A list of names and alleged attributes is just a pile of words.  What actual concrete measurements and observations can you offer?  Otherwise all you're saying is that there is a god because you say there is a god, and that's simply not good enough.
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Re: Present Evidence Here II
« Reply #743 on: January 05, 2020, 05:35:58 PM »
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Which is why I do not accept claims of any god's existence.  If something exists, at the very least its effects can be measured reliably even when the thing itself cannot be observed directly.

Yeah, like dark matter, that we can't see, but we can see its effects on the stars of the galaxy and other galaxies' motions.
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Re: Present Evidence Here II
« Reply #744 on: January 05, 2020, 06:36:38 PM »
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Yeah, like dark matter, that we can't see, but we can see its effects on the stars of the galaxy and other galaxies' motions.

That is one explanation.  May or may not be true.  Same with Dark Energy.   But I do believe in Dark Souls ;-)
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Re: Present Evidence Here II
« Reply #745 on: January 05, 2020, 06:39:08 PM »
Science doesn't look for "true," it looks for models that fit observations.
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Re: Present Evidence Here II
« Reply #746 on: January 05, 2020, 06:44:35 PM »
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Science doesn't look for "true," it looks for models that fit observations.

Maximum kudos.  Also add "quantitative and can be checked independently and repeatedly".  This is why most things aren't science, they are BS.
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Re: Present Evidence Here II
« Reply #747 on: January 05, 2020, 08:14:23 PM »
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  This is why most things aren't science, they are BS.
Well, you certainly have BS part of that down pat! 
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent,
Is he able but not willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able or willing?
Then why call him god?

Re: Present Evidence Here II
« Reply #748 on: January 05, 2020, 08:19:26 PM »
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Maximum kudos.  Also add "quantitative and can be checked independently and repeatedly".  This is why most things aren't science, they are BS.

Well, I was trying for succinctness.  ;-)
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Re: Present Evidence Here II
« Reply #749 on: January 05, 2020, 09:10:00 PM »
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The only thing we have to work with is the names and attributes.
Here's an idea: if you don't have evidence, don't say you have evidence.

And if you don't even understand the concept of evidence, absolutely do not say you have evidence.

 

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