Present Evidence Here II

[od19g6]

So, yes, I've made another thread to carry on from the archived one. What happens to this is up to the gods, but its here anyway, just in case. I've copied the OP from the original thread, so let the chat commence:

"We often get many theists claiming to have evidence for the god or gods they hold dear. This thread is created with the aim of allowing them to supply such evidence so that we may debate with them knowing the facts and conclusions they have drawn, and so that we may respond in kind.

So here we are. If you claim to have evidence that supports your god(s), please post it here:"

The best evidence of God is the human being itself.

[Hydra009]

The best evidence of God is the human being itself.

Now all you have to show how the human being is necessarily linked to this god character.

Otherwise, it's just an embarrassing non-sequitur and your argument is DOA.

[od19g6]

Now all you have to show how the human being is necessarily linked to this god character.

Otherwise, it's just an embarrassing non-sequitur and your argument is DOA.

The link between the human being and God is a special one in that the human being has the potential to display all of the names and attributes of God at the highest level beyond any living creature in the universe.

We are the most perfect creation in the universe.

[od19g6]

The link between the human being and God is a special one in that the human being has the potential to display all of the names and attributes of God at the highest level beyond any living creature in the universe.

We are the most perfect creation among all creatures.

[Unbeliever]

You still haven't told us anything about these "names and attributes" of God, so how can we discuss them rationally?

[Unbeliever]

Wouldn't it be dumb if an unborn baby claimed his mother didn't exist just because he couldn't see her?  That's the scenario proposed by a stupid Christian analogy.  I recently saw it circulating Facebook and have run into it many times before in my history as a Christian.  But does this make sense?  Does this story show how stupid skepticism is and how smart faith is?  Or does it just take advantage of obvious storytelling tricks to belittle atheists in the eyes of Christians?  (Spoiler - it's the second).  Join me as I break down this comparison and fix it with a more realistic version.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKsiIRr-IBg

[Hydra009]

The link between the human being and God is a special one in that the human being has the potential to display all of the names and attributes of God at the highest level beyond any living creature in the universe.

We are the most perfect creation in the universe.

Proof by assertion.  Yawn.

[Unbeliever]

Assertions are all you can expect from theists, of any stripe. No means of demonstrating their God, so they assert, and expect skeptics to just believe them because they've asserted.

[od19g6]

Now all you have to show how the human being is necessarily linked to this god character.

Otherwise, it's just an embarrassing non-sequitur and your argument is DOA.

The only link that we will ever have is through the names and attributes. And they are manifested in the physical world.

[od19g6]

You still haven't told us anything about these "names and attributes" of God, so how can we discuss them rationally?

Are you saying that you want a list of them?

[od19g6]

Assertions are all you can expect from theists, of any stripe. No means of demonstrating their God, so they assert, and expect skeptics to just believe them because they've asserted.

God best demonstration is the human being itself.
You'll never have "physical evidence" of God.

[Unbeliever]

Are you saying that you want a list of them?

How else can I know what you're talking about?

[Unbeliever]

God best demonstration is the human being itself.
You'll never have "physical evidence" of God.

If at first you don't succeed, assert, assert again.

[od19g6]

How else can I know what you're talking about?

Ok, I have to gather them.
I'll have them for you.

[od19g6]

If at first you don't succeed, assert, assert again.

Well unbeliever, you may think that they are just assertions because basically you just want to put God under a microscope, which you will never do.

The only thing we have to work with is the names and attributes.