Synagogue shooter was a white supremacist

[Hijiri Byakuren]

On the one hand, statistics correlate countries with the most relaxed gun laws with the most gun crime. On the other hand, correlation is not causation, and you can have my gun when you pry it out of my cold, dead hands.

[The Skeletal Atheist]

Is anyone here a happy medium in this? A gun owner who owns, what according to the news is, an assault rifle but is in favor of reasonable gun regulations? Come on! Raise your hands...anyone?...I'm the only one I'm the only one raising my hand? Nevermind...

[Feral Atheist]

Statistics say otherwise,  cowboy :). Of course a good atheist like yourself don't really care anything about evidence,  do ya?

I congratulate you for the self-awareness that allows you to openly and un-apologetically embrace your ignorance.

[Hydra009]

Is anyone here a happy medium in this? A gun owner who owns, what according to the news is, an assault rifle but is in favor of reasonable gun regulations?

That actually sounds reasonable.  It'll never work.

[Feral Atheist]

Is anyone here a happy medium in this? A gun owner who owns, what according to the news is, an assault rifle but is in favor of reasonable gun regulations? Come on! Raise your hands...anyone?...I'm the only one I'm the only one raising my hand? Nevermind...

And the difference between an assault rifle and a non-assault rifle is what?  Oh yea, one is black and scary looking, the other isn't.

[Icarus]

He killed 3 people, none were Jews, all were christians.  WTF the dude, how hard is that to comprehend, this mental midget failed in his hate, as you in yours.

So 1 example trumps all statistics? Grasp at those straws, grasp quickly and stupidly.

[Shiranu]

Is anyone here a happy medium in this? A gun owner who owns, what according to the news is, an assault rifle but is in favor of reasonable gun regulations? Come on! Raise your hands...anyone?...I'm the only one I'm the only one raising my hand? Nevermind...

I don't own an assault rifle (though I want to), but I do own about 9 guns and am in favour of gun regulations.

@Cowboy; cool story, you ignoring statistics makes me the ignorant one.  Brilliant "logic" (see; projection) there.

[Solitary]

And the difference between an assault rifle and a non-assault rifle is what?  Oh yea, one is black and scary looking, the other isn't.

An assault rifle is full automatic, neither one of them is an assault rifle. The issue is whether we are safer with every person, train or not, having a hand gun, or full automatic rifle, not whether we have a right to do so. I had a boy in the neighborhood that my other son said he was pointing a gun at his brother's head. When I told him to give me the gun he said, "only out of my cold dead hands"---he almost got his wish. He told me he had been trained on how to use a gun safely. His gun was loaded by the way. He is now in prison after pointing a gun at a group of other boys who he shot at, and that beat the living crap out of him, and almost did take the gun out of his cold dead hands. I had a worker point a loaded 45 at my face being funny. I took it away and he said it wasn't loaded. He also pointed a Israeli full automatic at a man in a car who chased him back to the office. This guy has a full arsenal of even grenade  launchers, and the last person that should even have a knife.  There was another man I worked with that pointed a hand gun out of his truck window at a man who took it away and threw it in a lake. Both of these gun nuts belong to survivalist and gun clubs, and are well trained, one having been in the military.  Solitary

[The Skeletal Atheist]

And the difference between an assault rifle and a non-assault rifle is what?  Oh yea, one is black and scary looking, the other isn't.

A telescoping stock and a pistol grip are not simply cosmetic features. They are designed to make the rifle more ergonomic, especially in urban situations where a shorter stock and a pistol grip may turn the situation in your favor.

I'm a gun owner. I like being allowed to own assault rifles. I think that due to statistics more attention should be paid to pistols then rifles...just don't try to argue that tactical features are cosmetic when they very well aren't.

I don't own an assault rifle (though I want to), but I do own about 9 guns and am in favour of gun regulations.

@Cowboy; cool story, you ignoring statistics makes me the ignorant one.  Brilliant "logic" (see; projection) there.

Yeah. I don't own an actual assault rifle, but the media would call it one because they are ignorant of gun terminology in general. It's just a SKS. My next purchase will probably be a pistol or a shotgun, though if I get a pistol I want to get one of those biometric pistol safe things for when I'm not carrying.

[AllPurposeAtheist]

FA, a longa way to run....

[Shiranu]

I think that due to statistics more attention should be paid to pistols then rifles...just don't try to argue that tactical features are cosmetic when they very well aren't.

Completely agreed. While I think "assault rifles" (more accurately any semi-automatic rifle, or even pistol) should be much harder to obtain and require much stricter regulations, the focus should really be on the weapon's that are statistically the biggest issue...pistols.

Yeah. I don't own an actual assault rifle, but the media would call it one because they are ignorant of gun terminology in general. It's just a SKS. My next purchase will probably be a pistol or a shotgun, though if I get a pistol I want to get one of those biometric pistol safe things for when I'm not carrying.

Yeah, I have seen a bunch of modern pistols that have all sorts of pretty crafty safety mechanisms. I am not sold on them being safe enough though for everyone and their brother to have one though.

Forgot to respond to this...

And the difference between an assault rifle and a non-assault rifle is what?  Oh yea, one is black and scary looking, the other isn't.

Cowboy, please stop watching Fox News for 10 seconds and realize how stupid you are making yourself look. Danke schoen.

[The Skeletal Atheist]

Yeah, I have seen a bunch of modern pistols that have all sorts of pretty crafty safety mechanisms. I am not sold on them being safe enough though for everyone and their brother to have one though.

I didn't mean a safety mechanism (the best safety mechanism is muzzle control, trigger control, and not being a fucking moron), but one of the actual safe boxes with a biometric feature. That way I can have the box in my room, in a place where children shouldn't be able to get it, but still be able to get to it quickly if need be. I have a gun safe, but it's big and bulky.

[aitm]

OKAY!!!

Back on topic, maybe it was mentioned previously, but were y'all aware the young man killed was the same lil kid claimed he met jebus and is the story behind "yes, there is a heaven"? Damn shame ole jebus wanted to talk to him face to face eh?

[Shiranu]

I didn't mean a safety mechanism (the best safety mechanism is muzzle control, trigger control, and not being a fucking moron), but one of the actual safe boxes with a biometric feature. That way I can have the box in my room, in a place where children shouldn't be able to get it, but still be able to get to it quickly if need be. I have a gun safe, but it's big and bulky.

Ohhh okay.  That's pretty cool then.

[_Xenu_]

Is anyone here a happy medium in this? A gun owner who owns, what according to the news is, an assault rifle but is in favor of reasonable gun regulations? Come on! Raise your hands...anyone?...I'm the only one I'm the only one raising my hand? Nevermind...

Not enough people, apparently. This same discussion gets endlessly repeated with every shooting and no common ground ever seems to be recognized.