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Offline SGOS

Cosmos Episode 2
« on: March 17, 2014, 10:46:06 AM »
I'm going to keep watching the series, but it's clearly geared for those with very little knowledge of science.  I keep thinking it's most appropriate for early teens.  The second episode was devoted entirely to elementary level evolution, which is old hat for people in this forum.  I'm hoping to learn more when they get into black holes and quantum mechanics.

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Re: Cosmos Episode 2
« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2014, 10:48:59 AM »
I thought it was a pretty good visual with side by side screens showing the development of the eye on one side and what that particular animal group was probably actually seeing on the other.

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Re: Cosmos Episode 2
« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2014, 10:51:37 AM »
I don't understand why everyone expects this show to be about super-advanced stuff. It has so far been the exact same level of material that the original talked about. If you want the more advanced stuff, find a more advanced show, because Cosmos is not, and has never been about teaching the high level stuff.


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Re: Cosmos Episode 2
« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2014, 10:58:04 AM »
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I don't understand why everyone expects this show to be about super-advanced stuff. It has so far been the exact same level of material that the original talked about. If you want the more advanced stuff, find a more advanced show, because Cosmos is not, and has never been about teaching the high level stuff.


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I'm not sure we expect it to be super advanced.  I'm only talking about my needs.  I think the show has value, and I think schools should show the series to all elementary students.

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Re: Cosmos Episode 2
« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2014, 11:14:21 AM »
I think it is geared to the median level, probably about 6th grade. I recall reading somewhere that that was the level advertising and other written media was geared to. It has value because it explains simplistically stuff like DNA and evolution. I think Degrasse Tyson is well aware of his audience. And also it is being shown on Fox, so there is a ready made 6th grade level audience to show it to.
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Re: Cosmos Episode 2
« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2014, 11:20:03 AM »
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I think it is geared to the median level, probably about 6th grade. I recall reading somewhere that that was the level advertising and other written media was geared to. It has value because it explains simplistically stuff like DNA and evolution. I think Degrasse Tyson is well aware of his audience. And also it is being shown on Fox, so there is a ready made 6th grade level audience to show it to.
I think you're right about the FOX audience, although it's personally horrifying to agree with that.

Offline Mermaid

Re: Cosmos Episode 2
« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2014, 06:40:17 PM »
I thought the episode on evolution was outstanding. It covered a lot of really complicated concepts in a layperson's terms without being simplistic. I give it all kinds of kudos. I was put off by all the cartoons and graphics at first, but it really worked, IMO.

My favorite analogy of the evening: Evolution is "just" a theory. Gravity is also a theory.

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Re: Cosmos Episode 2
« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2014, 06:41:28 PM »
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I think it is geared to the median level, probably about 6th grade. I recall reading somewhere that that was the level advertising and other written media was geared to. It has value because it explains simplistically stuff like DNA and evolution. I think Degrasse Tyson is well aware of his audience. And also it is being shown on Fox, so there is a ready made 6th grade level audience to show it to.
I have no problem teaching basic biology to the least common denominator if it is effective.
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Offline aitm

Re: Cosmos Episode 2
« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2014, 09:34:27 PM »
I had to pick up the damn grandkid last night so watching it now...I'm starting to like it more. The digs at superstition are open but gentle, kinda like bumping into your sister.
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Re: Cosmos Episode 2
« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2014, 09:42:00 PM »
nice tie in to the eye
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Re: Cosmos Episode 2
« Reply #10 on: March 18, 2014, 05:15:59 AM »
Creationists must be going nuts over the second episode. It was entirely dedicated to the theory that they so irrationally fear.
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Re: Cosmos Episode 2
« Reply #11 on: March 18, 2014, 07:42:42 AM »
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Creationists must be going nuts over the second episode. It was entirely dedicated to the theory that they so irrationally fear.
Yeah. It was kind of in your face about that, backed up with logic and facts.

The more people who really understand reality, the less power the creationists have. Education is the key and this is a good tool. I commend Fox for airing this.
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Re: Cosmos Episode 2
« Reply #12 on: March 18, 2014, 08:29:20 AM »
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Creationists must be going nuts over the second episode. It was entirely dedicated to the theory that they so irrationally fear.
Yeah, they probably are, whether they watched it or not.

Re: Cosmos Episode 2
« Reply #13 on: March 18, 2014, 09:12:34 AM »
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Re: Cosmos Episode 2
« Reply #14 on: March 18, 2014, 04:42:36 PM »
I like the fact that he occasionally gives a nod to Sagan and the original. I like Tyson because he is more than willing to honor those who came before.
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