Kiev burning.

[Insult to Rocks]

IR, Russia has been around for some time and isn't likely to just disolve any time soon.  They have problems,  but so does every nation. Don't be fooled by the media reports of collapse or disarray. They still hold a very strong seat in the UN, still have vast oil and gas reserves and a rather large military infrastructure.

I'm not saying they'll collapse, APA. Thats about as silly as assuming the U.N will actually do something about anything. I just meant that Russia's focus is more likely on other things, and that I doubt that they would throw all the hard-earned goodwill form the Olympics away just to intervene in the Ukraine.

[AllPurposeAtheist]

The goodwill of Sochi was lost before it ever got started. Russia still has a huge beaurocracy and plenty of practice at clamping down on descent.

[Insult to Rocks]

We should probably stop speculating about this anyway. Has Russia issued any official statements or anything that could give us any idea on their position, or is everyone too focused with Sochi?

[Shol'va]

There only needs to be a handful of people high up in government, and it just so happens that Putin is my prime suspect, to have a unified desire that tugs to days past of a glorious mother Russia. Look at the Snowden affair. The US threatened that harboring Snowden would be bad for a country's health and Russia jumped at the opportunity to say a "haha fuck you".
But, as it stands, I don't see a real interest, not when the EU in general is sucking at their delicious oil-filled teat.

[Moriarty]

http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/0 ... pe=article

Live continuous feed from Kiev~

[Insult to Rocks]

Bagpipes?
[youtube:25q1um1m]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJAR9ERJt4s[/youtube:25q1um1m]

[Shol'va]

Yep! I had to look it up.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duda
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volynka

Oh look! My country is mentioned
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cimpoi

[Hijiri Byakuren]

This is the first news story in quite a long time to make me turn on the television. Unfortunately, no one's really doing very much live coverage here in the states.

[The Skeletal Atheist]

This is the first news story in quite a long time to make me turn on the television. Unfortunately, no one's really doing very much live coverage here in the states.

Why would they? We need to know what Justin Bieber is doing and which celebrity has the hottest bod.

[Hijiri Byakuren]

This is the first news story in quite a long time to make me turn on the television. Unfortunately, no one's really doing very much live coverage here in the states.

Why would they? We need to know what Justin Bieber is doing and which celebrity has the hottest bod.

Which promptly reminded me why I usually don't watch television.

[Moriarty]

http://rt.com/news/kiev-clashes-rioters-police-571/

Body count is something around 40 now or there is blatant censorship.

CNN is reporting the truce broke completely apart with well over 100 dead now and hundreds more hurt. Shitz getting out of control.

[AllPurposeAtheist]

I'm not sure if I believe any of the news coming out of the Ukraine at this point as there are just to many fingers in the cookie jar. I typically don't buy whatever rt is selling and cnn spins everything too. Not to say Ukrainian government has any credibility,  but if a big bunch of people were in front of me lighting bon fires and heaving fire bombs at me I'd likely want to shoot at them.

[The Skeletal Atheist]

I think something as simple as "the truce broke" isn't really going to be subject to much spin. Now when it comes to why the truce broke that's where you get everyone throwing their agenda in. On all accounts the lack of a lasting truce is worrying.

As per me, if a bunch of people were lighting fires in my yard and lobbing fire bombs at me I'd get the impression that they didn't like me for some reason.

[Shol'va]

APA, I suggest social media sites if you want unfiltered perspectives. Twitter is great at keeping up with what is unfolding live. You will be privy to information before the media outlets pick up on it if at all.

[Moriarty]

APA, I suggest social media sites if you want unfiltered perspectives. Twitter is great at keeping up with what is unfolding live. You will be privy to information before the media outlets pick up on it if at all.

I would tend to disagree. Sorry. Just seems that most social networking sites are from regular citizens and less credible, they all have their own agendas, just like government officials.

Although, in my completely biased opinion, I tend to think that where there is smoke there is fire (both literally and figuratively in this case). Maybe as an American I am just jaded in my thinking that for citizens to actually take up arms against their own government usually means it has some merit because it will NEVER happen here, we're a bunch of pansies.