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Started by stromboli, February 14, 2013, 04:41:32 PM

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Mathias

The Catholic Church is too wealthy and to finish an institution old, rich and very powerful is almost impossible, in my opinion, because power is more tempting than wealth!
But they are losing many believers and "god's doberman" is not a very charismatic person, so it does not take much effort to add 2 + 2 ...
"There is no logic in the existence of any god".
Myself.

St Giordano Bruno

Quote from: "Mathias"The Catholic Church is too wealthy and to finish an institution old, rich and very powerful is almost impossible, in my opinion, because power is more tempting than wealth!
But they are losing many believers and "god's doberman" is not a very charismatic person, so it does not take much effort to add 2 + 2 ...

Wasn't he reputed to be a dog of a different breed, a Rottweiler?
Voltaire - "Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities"

Mathias

Quote from: "St Giordano Bruno"Wasn't he reputed to be a dog of a different breed, a Rottweiler?


For me this Pope behaves more like dobermans and I like Rottweilers much more! :)
"There is no logic in the existence of any god".
Myself.

WitchSabrina

Quote from: "stromboli"http://www.ashtarcommandcrew.net/forum/topics/the-real-reason-the-pope-resigned-seriously
QuoteThe Pope and top Vatican cardinals have been accused of possible crimes against humanity for sheltering guilty Catholic priests, in formal complaints to the International Criminal Court.

The Centre for Constitutional Rights, a New York-based non-profit legal group, requested an ICC inquiry on behalf of the Survivors Network, arguing that the global church has maintained a "long-standing and pervasive system of sexual violence" despite promises to swiftly oust predators.
The Vatican said it had no immediate comment on the complaint.
The complaint names Pope Benedict XVI, partly in his former role as leader of the Vatican's Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, which in 2001 explicitly gained responsibility for overseeing abuse cases; Cardinal William Levada, who now leads that office; Cardinal Angelo Sodano, the Vatican secretary of state under Pope John Paul II; and Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone, who now holds that post.
Lawyers for the victims say rape, sexual violence and torture are considered a crime against humanity as described in the international treaty that spells out the court's mandate. The complaint also accuses Vatican officials of creating policies that perpetuated the damage, constituting an attack against a civilian population.
Barbara Blaine, president of the US-based Survivors Network of those Abused by priests, said going to the court was a last resort.
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"We have tried everything we could think of to get them to stop and they won't," she said. "If the Pope wanted to, he could take dramatic action at any time that would help protect children today and in the future, and he refuses to take the action."
The odds against the court opening an investigation are enormous. The prosecutor has received nearly 9,000 independent proposals for inquiries since 2002, when the court was created as the world's only permanent war crimes tribunal, and has never opened a formal investigation based solely on such a request.
Instead, prosecutor Luis Moreno-Ocampo has investigated crimes such as genocide, murder, rape and conscripting child soldiers in conflicts from Darfur to this year's violence in Libya. Such cases have been referred to the court by the countries where the atrocities were perpetrated or by the UN Security Council.
Also, the Holy See is not a member state of the court, meaning prosecutors have no automatic jurisdiction there, although the complaint covers alleged abuse in countries around the world, many of which do recognise the court's jurisdiction.
The prosecutor's office said in a statement the evidence would be studied. "We first have to analyse whether the alleged crimes fall under the Court's jurisdiction," it said.
The Survivors Network and victims are pursuing the case as the abuse scandal, once dismissed as an American problem by the Vatican, intensifies around the world. Thousands of people have come forward in Ireland, Germany and elsewhere with reports of abusive priests, bishops who covered up for them and Vatican officials who moved so slowly to respond that molesters often stayed on the job for decades.

There is a lot more to it than this. One becomes Pope by being a very sharp politician and having ties in Italian politics besides the Vatican. But I think that the fact he is Pope during the first real revelation of the sickness within the priesthood and the media exposure, he did not want to be the pope that was sitting on the biggest mess of pedophilia and sexual abuse in history. Along with his health and other issues, I'm sure that played a part. Never before in history has the Catholic Church been called out like it has over this. He didn't want his name tainted by the scandal.

Told ya.
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stromboli

QuoteTold ya

You totally did, you witch you.  ;)

ApostateLois

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Thumpalumpacus

Quote from: "Mathias"The Catholic Church is too wealthy and to finish an institution old, rich and very powerful is almost impossible, in my opinion, because power is more tempting than wealth!
But they are losing many believers and "god's doberman" is not a very charismatic person, so it does not take much effort to add 2 + 2 ...

Religion has peaked.  The tide is ebbing.  It will take millennia, but it will come to pass that the religious are a distinct minority.
<insert witty aphorism here>

Colanth

Quote from: "NitzWalsh"I would like to see a new pope apologizing for the Catholic Church. Begging the peoples forgiveness for the pedophile priests and turning over their records and defrocking the perverts and turning them over to the law. Changing their stance on contraceptives and doing what they can to combat AIDS in Africa.
Not likely, given the ultra-conservative base that Benny built.
Afflicting the comfortable for 70 years.
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leftyatbest

Quote from: "TheDevoutPasta"So is the vatican still trying to fufill the malachy prophecy?
The next pope will either be named peter, or take the name of peter, and he'll be from Rome.

Ready the tinfoil.
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St Giordano Bruno

Quote from: "Mathias"
Quote from: "St Giordano Bruno"Wasn't he reputed to be a dog of a different breed, a Rottweiler?


For me this Pope behaves more like dobermans and I like Rottweilers much more! :)

Perhaps more like a Rottweiler/doberman cross ...... dresser
Voltaire - "Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities"

Savior2006

Quote from: "NitzWalsh"I would like to see a new pope apologizing for the Catholic Church. Begging the peoples forgiveness for the pedophile priests and turning over their records and defrocking the perverts and turning them over to the law. Changing their stance on contraceptives and doing what they can to combat AIDS in Africa. There's more, but I don`t want to rant too much.

Basically this as a first step. Won't hold my breath though.
It took science to do what people imagine God can do.
--ApostateLois

"The closer you are to God the further you are from the truth."
--St Giordano

Mathias

Quote from: "Thumpalumpacus"
Quote from: "Mathias"The Catholic Church is too wealthy and to finish an institution old, rich and very powerful is almost impossible, in my opinion, because power is more tempting than wealth!
But they are losing many believers and "god's doberman" is not a very charismatic person, so it does not take much effort to add 2 + 2 ...

Religion has peaked.  The tide is ebbing.  It will take millennia, but it will come to pass that the religious are a distinct minority.


I doubt that is at its peak, but expect that to happen, and surely will last millennia. Asia, Africa and Latin America the number of "neo-evangelical" is growing, as well as Islamic in Europe ...
ARGHHHHHHHH!!
"There is no logic in the existence of any god".
Myself.

WitchSabrina

Quote from: "St Giordano Bruno"
Quote from: "Mathias"
Quote from: "St Giordano Bruno"Wasn't he reputed to be a dog of a different breed, a Rottweiler?


For me this Pope behaves more like dobermans and I like Rottweilers much more! :)

Perhaps more like a Rottweiler/doberman cross ...... dresser


*coffee spew*
ROFLMFAO

warn me next time.............
I am currently experiencing life at several WTFs per hour.

Jason78

Quote from: "Thumpalumpacus"Religion has peaked.  The tide is ebbing.  It will take millennia, but it will come to pass that the religious are a distinct minority.

We can only hope and pray!

Well...  we can hope.
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wolf39us

Quote from: "ApostateLois"

Perfect!