Author Topic: The Myth of Christian Persecution  (Read 3229 times)

Re: The Myth of Christian Persecution
« Reply #15 on: October 20, 2013, 03:27:09 PM »
Not getting your way 100% of the time = persecution according to Christian logic  #-o

Offline Colanth

Re: The Myth of Christian Persecution
« Reply #16 on: October 20, 2013, 10:27:31 PM »
Quote from: "jublebeans"
Every time I have an argument with my mother and I tell her my reasons for not believing in her god she always pulls the "Stop disrespecting by beliefs" bullshit.
Tell her that respect is earned, and Christianity hasn't yet earned even derision.
Afflicting the comfortable for 70 years.
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Offline ApostateLois

Re: The Myth of Christian Persecution
« Reply #17 on: October 21, 2013, 11:56:19 AM »
I like to point out all the things Christians can do in the United States, and in pretty much any Western or European country:

They can go to whatever church they like.
They can attend Bible study services.
They have gift shops and music stores just for them.
They can go to whatever school they want to, and send their kids to school.
They can preach on street corners or go door-to-door, proselytizing (at least in the States)
They have TV and radio stations broadcasting their favorite preachers.
They can decorate their homes and persons with crosses or pictures of Jesus.


All this and more, without any fear whatsoever that the police are going to bash down their doors and drag them away to prison. They aren't treated like second-class citizens just because of their religious beliefs. They can do all the normal, everyday things that non-Christians do (buy a house, get a job, send their kids to school, attend college, etc.) without authorities demanding to know their religion and making them feel uncomfortable or threatened if they give the wrong answer.

 So where the hell is the persecution? It is all in their heads. Rather than focus on all the good things they have and regarding them as blessings from God, they choose to focus their energy on problems that don't even exist. They CHOOSE to think of themselves as pathetic, miserable victims of society; and when you make that decision, all of life seems bleak and hopeless. The way you see yourself affects how you behave, and that affects how others see you, so it is no wonder that Christians are being viewed as whinging crybabies with a persecution complex and a sense of entitlement that they don't deserve.
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Offline Hydra009

Re: The Myth of Christian Persecution
« Reply #18 on: October 21, 2013, 12:11:49 PM »
Quote from: "ApostateLois"
I like to point out all the things Christians can do in the United States, and in pretty much any Western or European country:

They can go to whatever church they like.
They can attend Bible study services.
They have gift shops and music stores just for them.
They can go to whatever school they want to, and send their kids to school.
They can preach on street corners or go door-to-door, proselytizing (at least in the States)
They have TV and radio stations broadcasting their favorite preachers.
They can decorate their homes and persons with crosses or pictures of Jesus.
And in the US, there's also a large amount of "ceremonial deism".  Christian crosses/displays set up at governmental buildings, God in the pledge, In God We Trust on the currency, some governmental meetings start with "non-denominational" prayers, Christian holidays are national holidays, many states have Blue Laws restricting "immoral" activities during the Christian day of worship, state laws establishing a religious test for office (essentially making Christian belief a prerequisite for holding state office), etc

Oh yeah, they have it rough.

Re: The Myth of Christian Persecution
« Reply #19 on: October 21, 2013, 12:33:03 PM »
Quote from: "ApostateLois"
I like to point out all the things Christians can do in the United States, and in pretty much any Western or European country:

They can go to whatever church they like.
They can attend Bible study services.
They have gift shops and music stores just for them.
They can go to whatever school they want to, and send their kids to school.
They can preach on street corners or go door-to-door, proselytizing (at least in the States)
They have TV and radio stations broadcasting their favorite preachers.
They can decorate their homes and persons with crosses or pictures of Jesus.


All this and more, without any fear whatsoever that the police are going to bash down their doors and drag them away to prison. They aren't treated like second-class citizens just because of their religious beliefs. They can do all the normal, everyday things that non-Christians do (buy a house, get a job, send their kids to school, attend college, etc.) without authorities demanding to know their religion and making them feel uncomfortable or threatened if they give the wrong answer.

 So where the hell is the persecution? It is all in their heads. Rather than focus on all the good things they have and regarding them as blessings from God, they choose to focus their energy on problems that don't even exist. They CHOOSE to think of themselves as pathetic, miserable victims of society; and when you make that decision, all of life seems bleak and hopeless. The way you see yourself affects how you behave, and that affects how others see you, so it is no wonder that Christians are being viewed as whinging crybabies with a persecution complex and a sense of entitlement that they don't deserve.

Yeah, but once in a while they are confronted with a poster like this one:

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AND THAT'S REAL PERSECUTION.

Re: The Myth of Christian Persecution
« Reply #20 on: October 21, 2013, 12:42:07 PM »
Quote from: "Minimalist"
Personally, j/b, I love to shove this cartoon right up the ass of people like that.

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Re: The Myth of Christian Persecution
« Reply #21 on: October 21, 2013, 02:21:23 PM »
Quote from: "ApostateLois"



 So where the hell is the persecution? It is all in their heads. Rather than focus on all the good things they have and regarding them as blessings from God, they choose to focus their energy on problems that don't even exist. They CHOOSE to think of themselves as pathetic, miserable victims of society; and when you make that decision, all of life seems bleak and hopeless. The way you see yourself affects how you behave, and that affects how others see you, so it is no wonder that Christians are being viewed as whinging crybabies with a persecution complex and a sense of entitlement that they don't deserve.

American Christians should take a little field trip to the middle east, get a taste of what REAL persecution is.

Re: The Myth of Christian Persecution
« Reply #22 on: October 23, 2013, 02:55:27 PM »
I know some Christians, they are perfectly nice people and don't believe in punishment, but rehabiliation, not even rehabilitation with the bible, but scientic methods, approved by psychologists, social workers etc. who may or may not be Christian, and they disagrees with the nationalists, they are against anti-intellectualism and they hold very intellectual political opinions. They generally keep their Christian beliefs to themselves, unless outsiders ask them about their beliefs.

These Christians hold these beliefs because Jesus explicit saying said that religion should be kept away from civil life is what correlates well with their own personal opinions.

Quotes supporting this:

Quote from: "Matthew 22:17-21"


Quote from: "Matthew 6:1-34"

Quote from: "Matthew 6:7"


The fact that the vast majority of Christians go and pray in Churches and other large crowds and worship symbols (like Jesus on the Cross or just the Cross itself) is hypocrisy and isn't really Christian in the strict sense of the meaning of being Christian: Which means to be anti-violence, pray in secrecy and keep religion and politics kept away, and stick to your own conscience.

Re: The Myth of Christian Persecution
« Reply #23 on: October 23, 2013, 03:15:09 PM »
Quote from: "Minimalist"
Personally, j/b, I love to shove this cartoon right up the ass of people like that.

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Yep, that cartoon is perfect!

Offline Solomon Zorn

Re: The Myth of Christian Persecution
« Reply #24 on: October 27, 2013, 02:47:27 PM »
A lot of Christian sects view their own group as the only TRUE Christianity. Therefore they are in the minority because the rest of Christianity doesn't count as Christian.

If you want persecution, try being a sci-fi geek teenager in the 1980's. :wink:
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