Regarding Syria's "Nerve Gas" attacks

[zarus tathra]

Apparently the attacks weren't done with nerve gas, and the attackers were probably rebels.

[Jmpty]

So, Why? To what end?

[zarus tathra]

The article points to a video allegedly released by the rebels showing them killing a bunch of rabbits with industrial toxicants and threatening the masses with a similar fate if they sided with the government. So maybe it was the rebels following through on that threat. Or, they were trying their best to frame the government and get the US involved, since there was the "red line" that Obama talked about.

[Hydra009]

Sott.net?!    :rollin:

[zarus tathra]

They have scientists commenting on the footage of the "attacks" from all kinds of research institutes and think tanks. Also, a UN weapons inspector in a BBC article comes out and says that the rebels probably carried out the attack.

link to the article

[Jmpty]

If you have followed the government of Assad, and his father before him, you will know that they don't need any "Framing."

[Jmpty]

They have scientists commenting on the footage of the "attacks" from all kinds of research institutes and think tanks. Also, a UN weapons inspector in a BBC article comes out and says that the rebels probably carried out the attack.

And everyone else in the world found that it was Assad. Hmmm.

[zarus tathra]

If you have followed the government of Assad, and his father before him, you will know that they don't need any "Framing."

Then they were going through with their threat, which they videotaped and broadcast on Youtube.

[Hydra009]

They have scientists commenting on the footage of the "attacks" from all kinds of research institutes and think tanks. Also, a UN weapons inspector in a BBC article comes out and says that the rebels probably carried out the attack.

link to the article

Psst.  That article is from May.  "The attack" that most people (but apparently not you) refer to, seeing how it was by far the deadliest wmd attack of that conflict happened August 21.

And for those of us who are literate, the body of the text states outright that it's not conclusive.

[entropy]

They have scientists commenting on the footage of the "attacks" from all kinds of research institutes and think tanks. Also, a UN weapons inspector in a BBC article comes out and says that the rebels probably carried out the attack.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-22424188]linktothearticle

Del Ponte is not a weapons inspector. She was one of the heads of the U.N. commission that was commissioned to investigate whether or not sarin gas had been used - it was not commissioned to determine who had "fired off" the gas if it was indeed sarin gas. Her statement came out in May and it was immediately clarified that she was not speaking for the commission in making her comments.

There is reason to be skeptical of Del Ponte:

http://www.theguardian.com/law/2010/aug ... rosecution

Carla Del Ponte, the former war crimes prosecutor who put Balkan warlords and political leaders behind bars, is to be investigated over claims she allowed the use of bullying and bribing of witnesses, or tainted evidence.

Judges at the UN war crimes tribunal for the former Yugoslavia in The Hague today ordered an independent inquiry into the practices of Del Ponte and two prominent serving prosecutors, Hildegard Ürtz-Retzlaff and Daniel Saxon, after complaints from witnesses that they had been harassed, paid, mistreated and their evidence tampered with.

But probably most of the skepticism for the claim she made in May is justified because of what was in the U.N. report when it came out in September:

//http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2013/09/syria-un-report-ghouta-sarin-rocket-attack

[Jmpty]

If you have followed the government of Assad, and his father before him, you will know that they don't need any "Framing."

Then they were going through with their threat, which they videotaped and broadcast on Youtube.

They being who? The Syrian army?

[zarus tathra]

The rebels. They gassed a bunch of animals on video and threatened to do the same to the citizens.

[Jmpty]

"allegedly released by the rebels showing them killing a bunch of rabbits"
Pretty damning evidence.

[Eugeny Anatolievich]

Assad is the only legal president of Syria, and he does his best to defend his country from bandits. Sorry but he has not gassed them.

[GrinningYMIR]

I agree with Eugeny, Assad would only lose if he used gas on his people. The rest of the world would crack down on him in a second.

But the rebels would have huge gains, they could fake an attack even, use it on their own people even, and it would appear that the government was using gas. They get immediate sympathy at the least, and foreign intervention on their side at the best.

I will admit there is a chance that Assad used the chems, but I personally believe that it is far more likely that the rebels used it in order to further their own positions