Author Topic: Evolution for Beginners  (Read 12924 times)

Re: Evolution for Beginners
« Reply #45 on: March 06, 2014, 07:30:56 PM »
Listen to This Garbage


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You heard in first, God is a giant monkey, feed him a giant banana, especially made to fit his creative hand.
And which scientist are they quoting that all life on earth evolved from a jar of giant peanut butter?

Peanut butter analogy! epic fail!
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Offline darsenfeld

Re: Evolution for Beginners
« Reply #46 on: March 09, 2014, 12:40:21 PM »
er..:

variation-selection-speciation

So a group of deer have all different traits, some big, small, some can eat different types of grass, others can eat leaves.   But when the environment changes from a woodland to grassland, those who can digest the grass do better, and become a new species.
consistency is for dopes....

Re: Evolution for Beginners
« Reply #47 on: March 09, 2014, 05:52:33 PM »
Quote from: "darsenfeld"
So a group of deer have all different traits, some big, small, some can eat different types of grass, others can eat leaves.   But when the environment changes from a woodland to grassland, those who can digest the grass do better, and become a new species.
It doesn't necessarily have to result in a new species, but basically, yes, that's basically how evolution works.

Offline ApostateLois

Re: Evolution for Beginners
« Reply #48 on: April 24, 2014, 05:29:01 PM »
Is anyone else getting fonts like this?



Also, none of the links in this thread are working. I keep getting a 502 Error page.

Anyway, I always direct people to the Understanding Evolution website made by Berkely University.  http://evolution.berkeley.edu/  They investigate various aspects of evolution in a manner that is clear, simple, and concise while still being thorough. Their Evolution 101 series takes you step-by-step through a basic understanding of evolutionary processes, how we know they are happening in real time, and how we make use of such knowledge in everyday life. http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/evo_01

I don't know if any creationist has ever actually gone to these pages, though. They are so closed-minded and brainwashed that they can't even bring themselves to read about evolution, for fear that it will somehow compromise their faith.
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Re: Evolution for Beginners
« Reply #49 on: April 24, 2014, 05:41:56 PM »
Is anyone else getting fonts like this?



Also, none of the links in this thread are working. I keep getting a 502 Error page.

Anyway, I always direct people to the Understanding Evolution website made by Berkely University.  http://evolution.berkeley.edu/  They investigate various aspects of evolution in a manner that is clear, simple, and concise while still being thorough. Their Evolution 101 series takes you step-by-step through a basic understanding of evolutionary processes, how we know they are happening in real time, and how we make use of such knowledge in everyday life. http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/evo_01

I don't know if any creationist has ever actually gone to these pages, though. They are so closed-minded and brainwashed that they can't even bring themselves to read about evolution, for fear that it will somehow compromise their faith.

What browser are you using?

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Re: Evolution for Beginners
« Reply #50 on: May 15, 2014, 07:47:17 AM »
I gotta tell you.. very few, if ANY of the religious nitwits I know would bother reading much past: see evolution sticky note..
God would certainly render them blind and they automatically qualify for the government dole..
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Re: Evolution for Beginners
« Reply #51 on: May 15, 2014, 08:19:55 AM »
Sorry if these have already been posted.

First book is more scientifically inclined. The second covers more of the historical perspective, now evolution evolved as we studied it. They are complimentary and I've owned at least six sets.

Evolution For Dummies

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Today, most colleges and universities offer evolutionary study as part of their biology curriculums. Evolution For Dummies will track a class in which evolution is taught and give an objective scientific view of the subject. This balanced guide explores the history and future of evolution, explaining the concepts and science behind it, offering case studies that support it, and comparing evolution with rival theories of creation, such as intelligent design. It also will identify the signs of evolution in the world around us and explain how this theory affects our everyday lives and the future to come.

The Complete Idiot's Guide(R) to Evolution

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You're no idiot of course. You've heard of Charles Darwin and how his theories changed the world. However, many scientists prior to Darwin examined where we came from - and many today wonder where we're going. Don't let scientific jargon make you feel like a primitive species! This shows you exactly what evolutionary theory is and why it remains controversial to this day. In the Complete Idiot's Guide to Evolution, you get: The principles of natural selection and the role of the environment in determining an organism's chances of survival. How scientists expanded upon Mendel's discovery and research of genetics - including inherited traits. How DNA was discovered and its relationship with inherited traits. Modern evolutionary concepts such as macroevolution and microevolution.
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Re: Evolution for Beginners
« Reply #52 on: May 27, 2014, 06:03:51 PM »
It's a lot easier to just believe God did it. whew! Even I got tired reading it. I really believe anyone so lazy they don't want to learn will get past the first word. Solitary
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Offline josephpalazzo

Re: Evolution for Beginners
« Reply #53 on: May 28, 2014, 07:19:02 AM »



I don't know if any creationist has ever actually gone to these pages, though. They are so closed-minded and brainwashed that they can't even bring themselves to read about evolution, for fear that it will somehow compromise their faith.

They go to AiG for their regular dose of brainwashing.

Re: Evolution for Beginners
« Reply #54 on: January 06, 2015, 08:52:00 AM »
I have fixed all of the formatting errors for this epic thread.


Re: Evolution for Beginners
« Reply #55 on: February 25, 2015, 04:25:51 PM »
I've just come across a book called The Evolution Handbook (PDF), which is truly amazing! It claims to have "thousands of scientific facts, disproving every basic area of evolutionary theory."

Just to give you a general idea of the kinds of "facts" presented, here's a section about the history of Hiroshima.

Beginning at the bottom of pg. 361, he dramatically leads us through the bombing itself, mentioning the number missing or killed (over 92,000), and then says:

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These poor creatures struggled with radiation-damaged bodies through the remainder of their shortened lives. Researchers studied them for decades: not one of them evolved into a new species or a new super race.
:exclaim:

I've only just begun to peruse the book, but I suspect there are many more gems like this. Have any of you heard of it? Could it be a spoof?

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Re: Evolution for Beginners
« Reply #56 on: February 25, 2015, 05:42:23 PM »
I've just come across a book called The Evolution Handbook (PDF), which is truly amazing! It claims to have "thousands of scientific facts, disproving every basic area of evolutionary theory."

Just to give you a general idea of the kinds of "facts" presented, here's a section about the history of Hiroshima.


Beginning at the bottom of pg. 361, he dramatically leads us through the bombing itself, mentioning the number missing or killed (over 92,000), and then says:
:exclaim:

I've only just begun to peruse the book, but I suspect there are many more gems like this. Have any of you heard of it? Could it be a spoof?

As I started reading, spoof came to mind, but if it is a spoof it's the mother load longest spoof in the history of mankind and spoofing. Gems such as the one you posted would be buried Ina mountain of spoof. Based on the length, I'm going with "not" a spoof - and that makes me very sad.
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Offline kilodelta

Re: Evolution for Beginners
« Reply #57 on: February 25, 2015, 05:52:46 PM »
I think the book is just looking at the people that were affected by the atom bomb. The author totally overlooked the evolution of Godzilla and the entire Monster Island.

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Re: Evolution for Beginners
« Reply #58 on: February 25, 2015, 06:06:44 PM »
Indeed, they failed to take into account the possible evolution of new species among the microbes and insects, as well.

I intend to go through the book with a fine toothed comb, if it seems to be worth it. I have The Counter-Creationism Handbook to help.
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"It is not God that is worshipped but the group or authority that claims to speak in His name. Sin becomes disobedience to authority not violation of integrity."
Radhakrishnan, Sir Sarvepalli

Re: Evolution for Beginners
« Reply #59 on: February 25, 2015, 06:40:27 PM »
Um I would like to point out that "survival of the fittest" needs to stop being used out of context. It is not the goal of evolution. It is one aspect of "the ability to adapt" on all levels as from genes to environment. But if the "fittest" individual dies before reproducing they have not spread their genes.

You can have say, have two guys at a bar. One 5' 5" fat guy with 4 kids spill a beer on a 6'2" muscle bound guy who responds to the spilled beer attempting to start a fight, this guy has no kids. The fat guy pulls out a gun and kills the fit guy with no kids. The unfit guy wins at evolution and the fit guy dies not spreading his genes.

It is more the ability to adapt and reproduce, heath in the individual can and does play a role, but in evolution what is important is reproduction and luck can and does play some role in that as well. You don't have to be the biggest or the toughest. Bacteria can kill the most fit human and far outnumber humans.
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