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Offline zarus tathra (OP)

Israel and its history of false flag attacks
« on: September 10, 2013, 09:57:11 PM »
The Lavon Affair

USS Liberty

Not to sound crudely anti-Semitic, but the Jews have been relying on the Western powers to suppress the Arab nations since Israel began to exist, and one of the means by which they induce the Western powers to help them has been through the use of false flag attacks, in which their assets attack Western targets but blame Arabs as the source. This kind of adds a lot of credibility to the "Jews did WTC" theory.

Just trying to get the word out.
?"Belief is always most desired, most pressingly needed, when there is a lack of will." -Friedrich Nietzsche

Ideals are imperfect. Morals are self-serving.

Offline Shiranu

Re: Israel and its history of false flag attacks
« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2013, 10:58:30 PM »
"No one is born hating another person because of the color of his skin or his background or his religion..." - Nelson Mandela

"Too much sanity may be madness and the maddest of all, to see life as it is and not as it should be." - Miguel de Cervantes

Offline zarus tathra (OP)

Re: Israel and its history of false flag attacks
« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2013, 11:34:52 PM »
The first link was to a Wikipedia article that talks about how Israel had agents bomb Egyptian, British, and American buildings and blame the attacks on the Muslim Brotherhood to create an atmosphere of violence that would convince Britain to keep its troops in Egypt a little longer. The second link shows information that points to a failed attempt to convince America to attack Egypt in 1967.

I understand that there is a reflexive fear in the US of criticizing Jewish people, but I think this can not be overlooked.
?"Belief is always most desired, most pressingly needed, when there is a lack of will." -Friedrich Nietzsche

Ideals are imperfect. Morals are self-serving.

Offline Shiranu

Re: Israel and its history of false flag attacks
« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2013, 11:39:09 PM »
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Not to sound crudely anti-Semitic, but the Jews...

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This kind of adds a lot of credibility to the "Jews did WTC" theory.

"No one is born hating another person because of the color of his skin or his background or his religion..." - Nelson Mandela

"Too much sanity may be madness and the maddest of all, to see life as it is and not as it should be." - Miguel de Cervantes

Offline zarus tathra (OP)

Re: Israel and its history of false flag attacks
« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2013, 11:40:41 PM »
All you can contribute to this thread are a bunch of image macros and status quo-protecting timidity. You are now on ignore.
?"Belief is always most desired, most pressingly needed, when there is a lack of will." -Friedrich Nietzsche

Ideals are imperfect. Morals are self-serving.

Offline Shiranu

Re: Israel and its history of false flag attacks
« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2013, 11:45:05 PM »
Quote from: "zarus tathra"
All you can contribute to this thread are a bunch of image macros and status quo-protecting timidity. You are now on ignore.

Israel =/= Jews.
Jews had nothing to do with WTC.
Saying Jews did 9/11 isn't "breaking the status quo", its being an idiot.

Happy.
"No one is born hating another person because of the color of his skin or his background or his religion..." - Nelson Mandela

"Too much sanity may be madness and the maddest of all, to see life as it is and not as it should be." - Miguel de Cervantes

Offline zarus tathra (OP)

Re: Israel and its history of false flag attacks
« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2013, 11:47:42 PM »
Semantics. Semantics semantics semantics semantics semantics. More semantics.
?"Belief is always most desired, most pressingly needed, when there is a lack of will." -Friedrich Nietzsche

Ideals are imperfect. Morals are self-serving.

Offline Shiranu

Re: Israel and its history of false flag attacks
« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2013, 11:50:36 PM »
Quote from: "zarus tathra"
Semantics. Semantics semantics semantics semantics semantics. More semantics.

United States = Christians.
Christians had everything to do with the siege of Troy.
Implying Christians seized Troy is breaking the status quo.

Disagree?

Semantics. Semantics semantics semantics semantics semantics. More semantics.

But to reiterate...

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Here.
"No one is born hating another person because of the color of his skin or his background or his religion..." - Nelson Mandela

"Too much sanity may be madness and the maddest of all, to see life as it is and not as it should be." - Miguel de Cervantes

Offline zarus tathra (OP)

Re: Israel and its history of false flag attacks
« Reply #8 on: September 10, 2013, 11:51:38 PM »
What? No, seriously. What?

Fine, okay, Israel's cowardly, deceitful government pulled off this bullshit. Can we agree on that?
?"Belief is always most desired, most pressingly needed, when there is a lack of will." -Friedrich Nietzsche

Ideals are imperfect. Morals are self-serving.

Re: Israel and its history of false flag attacks
« Reply #9 on: September 11, 2013, 12:26:27 AM »
First of all, Israeli government =/= the Jews. Shiranu said it, but it's worth repeating.

Second, the fact that the Israeli government has perpetrated false flag operations does not mean Jews did 9/11. The U.S. government has perpetrated false flag operations as well, and other breeds of truther have used this point to "lend credence" to the notion that the Bush administration was behind 9/11. Without any actual evidence that 9/11 was a false flag operation at all, or that Israel had anything to do with it, the fact that such-and-such government was behind a false flag in the past is completely irrelevant.

Offline Fidel_Castronaut

Re: Israel and its history of false flag attacks
« Reply #10 on: September 11, 2013, 05:25:19 AM »
Implying that 9/11 was anything other than some islamic fundamentalists who had been gradually radicalised through succcessive years/decades in various Arabic/ pan-Asian and European states reveals a gross ignorance to the contextual basis behind the 9/11 attacks the reality it implied/implies.

What's most damaging about this nonsense bollocks about people other than those have been proven to carry out the attacks is that it forces people to start dismissing those claims instead of getting to the heart of why the attacks occured and how to prevent them.

In short, it completely derails any attempt to figure out how to evolve beyond the attrocity that 9/11 certainly was and work to ensure that it doesn't happen again. When people start wilding accusing others with nothing more than a 'hunch', it fucks the entire world up a lot more than the 9/11 attacks ever could.

Quote from: "zarus tathra"
I understand that there is a reflexive fear in the US of criticizing Jewish people, but I think this can not be overlooked.

There should be a fear of accusing others based on prejudice against people and not evidence.
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Offline zarus tathra (OP)

Re: Israel and its history of false flag attacks
« Reply #11 on: September 11, 2013, 09:33:34 AM »
It'd be much easier for the US or Israel to pull this off than for Al Qaeda.

Also, here's a list of people involved with the WTC towers and buildings surrounding it. Way, way, WAY too many coincidences.
?"Belief is always most desired, most pressingly needed, when there is a lack of will." -Friedrich Nietzsche

Ideals are imperfect. Morals are self-serving.

Re: Israel and its history of false flag attacks
« Reply #12 on: September 11, 2013, 09:47:02 AM »
Quote from: "zarus tathra"
Semantics. Semantics semantics semantics semantics semantics. More semantics.
Semitics semitics and more semitics.  :P

At any rate, this thread is a perfect example of what happens when one starts credulously accepting conspiracy theory hookem and unsubstantiated conjecture as a replacement for cold, hard fact.  A lesson the political forum has been in dire need of lately.

Re: Israel and its history of false flag attacks
« Reply #13 on: September 11, 2013, 09:50:39 AM »
One of the reasons for the attack on the WTC was that it represented everything that the attackers hated. The perception has been for many years that Jews are behind Wall Street and everything economic in the US. 18% of the people killed were Jewish. That is a much higher percent than exist worldwide as a percent of population. So you are saying that Jews perpetrated an attack on Jews to start shit against Arab terrorists?

The attackers are known, their motives known, their origins known. To say this is a Jewish conspiracy is flying in the face of a large body of evidence.

Offline zarus tathra (OP)

Re: Israel and its history of false flag attacks
« Reply #14 on: September 11, 2013, 09:50:49 AM »
The Lavon Affair has been documented and recorded in history, even the Israelis acknowledge it happened, even if they refer to it as the "unfortunate affair" or whatever.
?"Belief is always most desired, most pressingly needed, when there is a lack of will." -Friedrich Nietzsche

Ideals are imperfect. Morals are self-serving.