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Re: Laws behind pregnancy.
« Reply #15 on: September 01, 2013, 09:58:24 PM »
I smell sock-puppetry.
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Re: Laws behind pregnancy.
« Reply #16 on: September 01, 2013, 09:58:58 PM »
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Woman and man both choose to have sex in case of accidental pregnancy need to be resolved from both parties
if man doesn't want to have a child he is forced by woman's choice to pay money out from his packet.
no one is taking away a rights of woman to do what ever they want with their body but this Law takes away right of man to say i don't want to have a child. fact that he cant say anything weather or not woman should get an abortion is very fair.
but think about this Logically if both of parties take action and something goes wrong its up to both parties to choice how to solve a problem not only ones. In this case its only choice women where is a right of men?
so if woman has a right to have a child whether or not she has permission from father of a child
then man should have a right to give away their rights of fatherhood
AKA not be forced to pay child support when he gave away his rights of fatherhood
and please write normal comment this is forum for atheists don't say silly things like you should keep it in your pants or this is biology really?
I think you are on wrong forum this is not lets be stupid because we never had other choice forum.[/quote]

Men are not innocent in this whole baby-making thing. They put their dicks in women and ejaculate knowing the consequences of their actions. Birth control does not always work. Shit happens. If you put your penis in a vagina, you'd better be prepared for any unexpected consequences that result from that action. If you're partially responsible for creating a new life, deal with it. And don't you dare tell me I'm being "silly" because I disagree with you, I have a perfectly valid argument. You can't just "give away" your fatherhood. You created a life. You had sex and you knew what could happen, but you did it anyway. Every time I have sex, I know there is a slim chance I could get pregnant. I accept that risk.[/quote]
so its okay for woman to force man to pay for child support?
because woman was raped by the man and its all his fault?
do you have any idea how silly your argument is?(and when it is silly its my choice whether or not ill point it out as one)
both of them make a choice both of them needs to deal with a problem
Case #1.Man i don't want to have a child
        #2.Woman well i do so i am a king of the hills there for your rights doesn't  exists
Not only man doesn't have a say whether or not child needs to be born which is fair but he doesn't have a say whether or not child will be raised out from his pocket
if you don`t see problem with that then you don't care about justice

Offline Mermaid

Re: Laws behind pregnancy.
« Reply #17 on: September 01, 2013, 10:03:39 PM »
Quote from: "Alex Shouwls"
Quote from: "Mermaid"
Quote from: "Alex Shouwls"
Why is it that woman has 100% control on how much responsibility she can demand from man when its both of their fault that shes pregnant?
Because she gestates the baby, it's her body. That is biology. If you have a problem with it, blame God.

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Re: Laws behind pregnancy.
« Reply #18 on: September 01, 2013, 10:24:29 PM »
Quote from: "Alex Shouwls"
so its okay for woman to force man to pay for child support?
because woman was raped by the man and its all his fault?

Wait. What? Are you...talking about rape?

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do you have any idea how silly your argument is?(and when it is silly its my choice whether or not ill point it out as one)
both of them make a choice both of them needs to deal with a problem
Case #1.Man i don't want to have a child

And yet he had sex knowing full well that sex creates babies.

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#2.Woman well i do so i am a king of the hills there for your rights doesn't  exists
Not only man doesn't have a say whether or not child needs to be born which is fair but he doesn't have a say whether or not child will be raised out from his pocket
if you don`t see problem with that then you don't care about justice

What you fail to see is that A MAN IS RESPONSIBLE FOR WHERE HE PUTS HIS DICK AND THE CONSEQUENCES OF THOSE ACTIONS.

What you're advocating is a man getting a woman pregnant and running from any responsibility whatsoever.

I find this stance incredible considering most men's rights activists are always complaining that men have no rights over a child during custody battles. "Oh, the woman always has more rights over the kid! It should be recognized that I helped create that kid!" So which is it? Does a man have responsibility for creating a child or not?

Hypothetical situation: A woman gets pregnant and has a baby. Says she wants to revoke her rights to motherhood and make the man raise the kid alone. Would you support her?
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Offline AllPurposeAtheist

Re: Laws behind pregnancy.
« Reply #19 on: September 01, 2013, 11:19:42 PM »
Maybe I missed that part where women are raping men and forcing them to become responsible fathers against their will.
Most, not all men I know would fuck a snake if you held its fangs open long enough so exactly where is the sympathy supposed to be because right now it's between shit and syphilis.
If you don't want to get eaten by the pigs stay out of the sty and.keep your pecker out of biting rang.
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Re: Laws behind pregnancy.
« Reply #20 on: September 01, 2013, 11:20:27 PM »
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Easiest way not to have this problem is some pornography, tissues, and your dominant hand. I may be made fun of, but no one can deny that this method is foolproof. 8-)
It is only foolproof because using the other hand is much better.

Other than that, you are spot on.

Re: Laws behind pregnancy.
« Reply #21 on: September 01, 2013, 11:41:50 PM »
Quote from: "Smartmarzipan"
Quote from: "Alex Shouwls"
so its okay for woman to force man to pay for child support?
because woman was raped by the man and its all his fault?

Wait. What? Are you...talking about rape?

Quote
do you have any idea how silly your argument is?(and when it is silly its my choice whether or not ill point it out as one)
both of them make a choice both of them needs to deal with a problem
Case #1.Man i don't want to have a child

And yet he had sex knowing full well that sex creates babies.

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#2.Woman well i do so i am a king of the hills there for your rights doesn't  exists
Not only man doesn't have a say whether or not child needs to be born which is fair but he doesn't have a say whether or not child will be raised out from his pocket
if you don`t see problem with that then you don't care about justice

What you fail to see is that A MAN IS RESPONSIBLE FOR WHERE HE PUTS HIS DICK AND THE CONSEQUENCES OF THOSE ACTIONS.

What you're advocating is a man getting a woman pregnant and running from any responsibility whatsoever.

I find this stance incredible considering most men's rights activists are always complaining that men have no rights over a child during custody battles. "Oh, the woman always has more rights over the kid! It should be recognized that I helped create that kid!" So which is it? Does a man have responsibility for creating a child or not?

Hypothetical situation: A woman gets pregnant and has a baby. Says she wants to revoke her rights to motherhood and make the man raise the kid alone. Would you support her?
your arguments are getting sillier and sillier
Woman was one that choose to have sex and toke a risk of child birthing. whenever they haven't planned for her to get pregnant its called accidental pregnancy.
accidental pregnancy can be fixed two was see there are two choices choice
NUMBER 1.Woman gets abortion,  and half of abortion bill will be going to man, because he is 50% responsible, if he want her to get abortion.IF HE WANT WOMAN TO GET AN ABORTION (in that case only)
NUMBER 2. Woman  want to have that accidental child but man doesn't so>>>>> LISTEN TO THIS
5050 both parties choice
Woman chooses to have a child
Man chooses to not have a child + any responsibility with any child whats so ever
SEE? 5050 choice woman has right to have a child just as much man has right to not have any responsibility to child. If man raped woman then yes it was forced but and woman gets 100% rights.
Listen to this both of them made this choice of having sex and toke the risk
now both of them decide what amount of responsibility they want to take out from mistake
If man says no way i don't want to have a child is much more fair than woman saying no way you got to pay me because of my decision, and again you go on with this silly questions: Says she wants to revoke her rights to motherhood and make the man raise the kid alone. Would you support her? really? how stupid can this questions get? No because she made a choice to have a child, that is her responsibility. revoke?? you can revoke and give away your child that doesn't means that father of a child must take it.  If father of a child decides to not have a responsibility of child when he is not not married or wasn't planning to have a child, he should have a right of that
Second woman decides to make a child without help of father of a child its woman fault she should have an abortion and man can pay half of a bill of abortion if he want to if he doesn't that means man is some kind of mental person who doesn't want woman to get an abortion that means if woman will not have an abortion man is demanded to pay child support .Its Logical
woman can have an abortion but if man doesn't want a child, and wants to terminate bearing he doesn't have to pay any money
If man want child to be born then he must pay child support
this feminist crap is out of control we got viginas we need more power
its only fair
try to think about it without vigina for a second and you'll see that your position is unjust
« Last Edit: September 01, 2013, 11:59:21 PM by Alex Shouwls »

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Re: Laws behind pregnancy.
« Reply #22 on: September 01, 2013, 11:45:29 PM »
Quote from: "Alex Shouwls"
your arguments are getting sillier and sillier
Woman was one that choose to have sex and toke a risk of child birthing whenever they haven't planned for her to get pregnant its called accidental pregnancy
accidental pregnancy can be fixed two was see there are two choices choice
NUMBER 1.Woman gets abortion  and half of abortion bill will be going to man because he is 50% responsible if he want her to get abortion.IF HE WANT WOMAN TO GET AN ABORTION
NUMBER 2. Woman  want to have that accidental child but man doesn't so>>>>> LISTEN TO THIS
5050 both parties choice
Woman chooses to have a child
Man chooses to not have a child + any responsibility with any child whats so ever
SEE? 5050 choice woman has right to have a child just as much man has right to not have any responsibility to child IF man raped woman then yes it was forced but
Listen to this both of them made this choice of having sex and take the risk
now both of them decide what amount of responsibility they want to take out from mistake
If man says no way i don't want to have a child is just as valid as woman saying no way you got to pay me because of my decision and again you go on with this silly questions: Says she wants to revoke her rights to motherhood and make the man raise the kid alone. Would you support her? really? how stupid can this questions get? No because she made a choice to have a child that is her responsibility revoke?? you can revoke and give away your child that doesn't means that father of a child should take it. what a bloody hell are you talking about? If father of a child decides to not have a responsibility of child when he is not not married or wasn't planning to have a child he should have a right of that
Second woman decides to make a child without help of father of a child its woman fault she should have an abortion and man can pay half of a bill of abortion
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Offline Solitary

Re: Laws behind pregnancy.
« Reply #23 on: September 01, 2013, 11:51:31 PM »
I wish I could get a woman pregnant. :shock:   :cry:   :(  Solitary
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Re: Laws behind pregnancy.
« Reply #24 on: September 01, 2013, 11:55:03 PM »
Quote from: "Solitary"
I wish I could get a woman pregnant. :shock:   :cry:   :(  Solitary
I wish I could get a man pregnant.  
Actually, it's time for all men to do their part and get pregnant now.
Women have had it with this childbearing shit!
I always wondered why having balls was equated with "strength".  Balls are sensitive and delicate, actually.   Better to grow a vagina.  Those things can take a pounding - and pop out a live human being the size of a watermelon.

Re: Laws behind pregnancy.
« Reply #25 on: September 02, 2013, 12:31:45 AM »
Quote from: "antediluvian"
Quote from: "Solitary"
I wish I could get a woman pregnant. :shock:   :cry:   :(  Solitary
I wish I could get a man pregnant.  
Actually, it's time for all men to do their part and get pregnant now.
Women have had it with this childbearing shit!

Offline AllPurposeAtheist

Re: Laws behind pregnancy.
« Reply #26 on: September 02, 2013, 12:44:59 AM »
Quote from: "antediluvian"
Quote from: "Solitary"
I wish I could get a woman pregnant. :shock:   :cry:   :(  Solitary
I wish I could get a man pregnant.  
Actually, it's time for all men to do their part and get pregnant now.
Women have had it with this childbearing shit!
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Offline AllPurposeAtheist

Re: Laws behind pregnancy.
« Reply #27 on: September 02, 2013, 12:57:27 AM »
Alex, far be it from me to suggest how you live your life, but taking responsibility for the whereabouts of your penis once it leaves the vicinity of your zipper is probably a good idea and bitching about it after the fact makes you seem like a whining bitch.
Yeah, I know..old fashioned ideas.'
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Re: Laws behind pregnancy.
« Reply #28 on: September 02, 2013, 01:15:46 AM »
Quote from: "AllPurposeAtheist"
Alex, far be it from me to suggest how you live your life, but taking responsibility for the whereabouts of your penis once it leaves the vicinity of your zipper is probably a good idea and bitching about it after the fact makes you seem like a whining bitch.
Yeah, I know..old fashioned ideas.'
ooww lets listen to genius he assumes that it happened in my life because that must be why i care about it mr.logic here))
he is asking for responsibility when he cant make an argument why should one be responsible of it
and he calls asking for justice whining. i am sorry aren't you late on your communist meeting party?
this people are just as mentally deranged as redneck creationists
wow i am shocked list don't come to atheist forums
you know just because you are an atheist it doesn't means that you have to look for other atheists
but when we have active group we base our position and defend them on reason and fact
you sir don't belong here
« Last Edit: September 02, 2013, 08:35:58 AM by Alex Shouwls »

Offline the_antithesis

Re: Laws behind pregnancy.
« Reply #29 on: September 02, 2013, 01:18:01 AM »
Quote from: "Smartmarzipan"
I smell sock-puppetry.

I already said that.

 

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