Author Topic: Very quick rundown why Zen is a kind of psychology ...  (Read 1855 times)

Online Baruch

Re: Very quick rundown why Zen is a kind of psychology ...
« Reply #15 on: April 22, 2019, 03:40:32 PM »
Oh ffs. I knew I shouldn't have deleted that post.

There was a post here guys:

"... Baruch: 'Less Kant, more Cunt.' ..."

Post of the living dead ....

Here is one definition of Age of Reason ...



French guy likes everything English, hates everything French.  And definitely a soy boy.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ ła’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Offline Sal1981

Re: Very quick rundown why Zen is a kind of psychology ...
« Reply #16 on: April 24, 2019, 07:32:08 PM »

But there is no panacea ... sometimes you don't want to be mindful (you need to ruminate/day dream).  Just as there are times when you need to be a materialist (when you are doing engineering).

Mindfulness is a tool to center oneself, not much more than that. Although the benefits are, as a result of being in the moment, quite positive. I'm being mindful when I'm out on a walk/hike as I find it to be like offloading thoughts. Thinking back to a walk I took just today, then I couldn't really tell you what I was thinking, it became a backdrop to just taking in the scenery of what I saw while walking. Of course thoughts crossed my mind while walking, but they were at most just white noise that didn't affect me.

I suffer from schizoaffective disorder, still, and mindfulness has made me able to decouple concerns (e.g. the ever-readdressing of past misdeeds) from the present moment. It has helped me focus, like the vid explained, on minutiae where necessary. And mindfulness has helped me with my disorder, particularly my tendency for delusion. I also like to think that it has made me more aware when I get these emotions when I'm more or less delusional - that I'm able to discern if my thought patterns, my delusions, correspond to reality.

It's hard to explain my disorder; best way I can say, which I got a whiff of just earlier today in a pub, I got a creeping sensation that a pattern presented itself to me and I could just attune my thoughts to decipher this pattern - and this was while hearing an barely audible radio (there was interference) and the chit-chat of the other patrons present - which essentially was merely white noise, but something I paid close attention to.

I know now that this feeling I get is just patternicity on overload. I imagine myself able to discern this feeling and thoughts therefrom thanks to mindfulness, but I'm not so sure if it is mindfulness, the Abilify I'm taking, or a combination of both. In any case, mindfulness grounds my emotive state.
"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool" --- Richard P. Feynman

Offline Gregory

Re: Very quick rundown why Zen is a kind of psychology ...
« Reply #17 on: March 06, 2020, 12:32:38 AM »
Zen is a dead man's idea of a joke.

Online Baruch

Re: Very quick rundown why Zen is a kind of psychology ...
« Reply #18 on: March 06, 2020, 09:42:23 AM »
Zen is a dead man's idea of a joke.

Not clever.  The goal of Enlightenment in the East is to become like an unworked block of wood (prior to being worked on by a wood carver).  Not to become nothing, but to become that which can be worked on.

What is the sound of one Gregory post?  Never happened.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ ła’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Offline Gregory

Re: Very quick rundown why Zen is a kind of psychology ...
« Reply #19 on: April 06, 2020, 05:35:36 AM »
Zen is a religion which means that it is pathological.

Online Baruch

Re: Very quick rundown why Zen is a kind of psychology ...
« Reply #20 on: April 06, 2020, 11:59:17 AM »
Zen is a religion which means that it is pathological.

Paradoxical.  Fixed if for you.  Buddhism often calls itself an un-religion.  Zen often calls itself an un-Buddhism.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ ła’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.