Hello

[Colanth]

Here is an example: Q: is there a god

Atheist: No
Agnostic: IDK

Not really.  The agnostic would probably respond that way, but atheism has nothing to do with whether there is a god or not, just with whether the individual believes in any god or gods.  A gnostic atheist says there are no gods, an agnostic atheist says he doesn't know whether any god exists.  Neither one believes in any gods.

Atheism isn't belief in lack of gods, it's lack of belief in gods.  (Agnosticism is just not making existential statements for which you have no evidence.)

So there are 4 possibilities:

1) Agnostic atheist
2) Gnostic atheist
3) Agnostic theist (I believe in God but I can't be sure that he exists)
4) Gnostic theist (I know that God exists and I believe in him)

You'll find that most here are agnostic atheists.

But welcome to the madhouse here.

[Hijiri Byakuren]

Here is an example: Q: is there a god

Atheist: No
Agnostic: IDK

More like:

Atheist: Not enough evidence to say.

The fact of the matter is that if you neither worship nor acknowledge any deities for any reason, you are an atheist. Folks who self-identify as agnostics will agree there is not enough evidence to justify worshiping a god. Unless you're some crazy kookoo, you probably don't proceed to worship these gods anyway; ergo, you're an atheist. All agnostics are atheists and most atheists are agnostics. The only reason agnostic exists as a term to self-identify as is because people like to pretend there's a an enlightened "third position" that has hit upon something the other two parties have not. In reality, agnostics are as bad as theists at recognizing what an atheist even is, as they have fallen prey to the same propaganda stating that we are ardently against the idea of there being deities.

[Antyla]

Here is an example: Q: is there a god

Atheist: No
Agnostic: IDK

Not really.  The agnostic would probably respond that way, but atheism has nothing to do with whether there is a god or not, just with whether the individual believes in any god or gods.  A gnostic atheist says there are no gods, an agnostic atheist says he doesn't know whether any god exists.  Neither one believes in any gods.

Atheism isn't belief in lack of gods, it's lack of belief in gods.  (Agnosticism is just not making existential statements for which you have no evidence.)

So there are 4 possibilities:

1) Agnostic atheist
2) Gnostic atheist
3) Agnostic theist (I believe in God but I can't be sure that he exists)
4) Gnostic theist (I know that God exists and I believe in him)

You'll find that most here are agnostic atheists.

But welcome to the madhouse here.

You guys toughen things up way too much, just keep it simple. Atheism is, in a broad sense, the rejection of belief in the existence of deities. <-- that's from Wikipedia, now I'm not saying that Wikipedia is completely reliable but we can at least take in into consideration.

Q: is there a god

A Chill Boss Atheist: Nah...

As the German legend, Albert E, said; 'If you cannot explain it simply, you do not understand it well enough'

[aitm]

Stick to your position. Some here overanalyze everything, and some "doth protest too much" about things to the point of being preachy.

[mykcob4]

Welcome.
A few things that I don't understand.
I can't understand what an agnostic really is. Either you require proof of a god or you take it on faith that a god exist. So what the hell is an agnostic. Is it that you are just insecure and won't commit, or do you not actually know what an atheist is?
Also I often wondered how anyone would get into the sex/porno business. It seems too dangerous a life style. I know it isn't the same here as it is in Europe, but again I think you could work at Mickey Ds and be safer.
I can't stand the men that watch porn. They devalue women, themselves and life in general. Is it so hard to make friends and find a meaningful relationship that it creates a multi-billion dollar industry based on personal failures?
I would imagine that you were exploited and that isn't fun at all. I could imagine that your selfesteem was very low. I hope that you have found a better place and that your new life is better.
BTW I am not interested in any pictures or videos. I think requesting them from you even as a joke is uncalled for.
Heres what an atheist really is IMO. An atheist is a NORMAL person. A person that requires proof before they believe things. A person that is not superstitious, or suseptible to being duped by propaganda or lies. A person that secure and confident. A person that is praticle and compassionate, that values life for what it is, not for what some has decided that it may be. A person not pressured by peers society or a crowd to believe something just so they can fit in. An individual.
Thats what I am anyway.
Good luck to you!

Here is an example: Q: is there a god

Atheist: No
Agnostic: IDK

I had to work as a webcam model for awhile because I could make my own schedule, easy & provides a lot of cash, nothing more. Working as a webcam model was not fun in the slightest, most men over there were dull, slimy & unfunny. They used to crack the cheesiest jokes while I'm in a middle an orgasm which was not even pleasing. I would rather masturbate alone than with those creeps, I also faked smiles, which something I never do. & it isn't a 'business,' it is something so simple that anybody can do it for free on a webcam site. Yes I do have problems, I am a sick person. I enjoy being alone & I feel like if I see a boner I would slit it's head off. I see a therapist. I really don't like to categorize or generalize people. A good smart person is a good smart person, not because he's an Atheist, Muslim or a Christian.
Thanks for the chitchat!

The point I was making about agnostic is that an Atheist just doesn't waste time contemplating a god. An atheist doesn't say that there couldn't be a god, we just believe there is one untill there is evidence that there is a god. Just like we don't believe that there is a giant purple cow on the other sun unless someone proofs it. An agnostic isn't a true position. It states that you wonder if there is a god or not. Why waste so much mental energy when there is no proof of a god?
Hey just to let you know, we are all sick people. We all have something that we must deal with. I'm glad that you are proactive about what you are dealing with. You know there is someone that will and can love you, not because you are physically beautiful, but you are just beautiful. BTW I have no idea who you are, that is the advantage of the internet. You will and can find happiness. Good luck in your quest.

[Antyla]

Welcome.
A few things that I don't understand.
I can't understand what an agnostic really is. Either you require proof of a god or you take it on faith that a god exist. So what the hell is an agnostic. Is it that you are just insecure and won't commit, or do you not actually know what an atheist is?
Also I often wondered how anyone would get into the sex/porno business. It seems too dangerous a life style. I know it isn't the same here as it is in Europe, but again I think you could work at Mickey Ds and be safer.
I can't stand the men that watch porn. They devalue women, themselves and life in general. Is it so hard to make friends and find a meaningful relationship that it creates a multi-billion dollar industry based on personal failures?
I would imagine that you were exploited and that isn't fun at all. I could imagine that your selfesteem was very low. I hope that you have found a better place and that your new life is better.
BTW I am not interested in any pictures or videos. I think requesting them from you even as a joke is uncalled for.
Heres what an atheist really is IMO. An atheist is a NORMAL person. A person that requires proof before they believe things. A person that is not superstitious, or suseptible to being duped by propaganda or lies. A person that secure and confident. A person that is praticle and compassionate, that values life for what it is, not for what some has decided that it may be. A person not pressured by peers society or a crowd to believe something just so they can fit in. An individual.
Thats what I am anyway.
Good luck to you!

Here is an example: Q: is there a god

Atheist: No
Agnostic: IDK

I had to work as a webcam model for awhile because I could make my own schedule, easy & provides a lot of cash, nothing more. Working as a webcam model was not fun in the slightest, most men over there were dull, slimy & unfunny. They used to crack the cheesiest jokes while I'm in a middle an orgasm which was not even pleasing. I would rather masturbate alone than with those creeps, I also faked smiles, which something I never do. & it isn't a 'business,' it is something so simple that anybody can do it for free on a webcam site. Yes I do have problems, I am a sick person. I enjoy being alone & I feel like if I see a boner I would slit it's head off. I see a therapist. I really don't like to categorize or generalize people. A good smart person is a good smart person, not because he's an Atheist, Muslim or a Christian.
Thanks for the chitchat!

The point I was making about agnostic is that an Atheist just doesn't waste time contemplating a god. An atheist doesn't say that there couldn't be a god, we just believe there is one untill there is evidence that there is a god. Just like we don't believe that there is a giant purple cow on the other sun unless someone proofs it. An agnostic isn't a true position. It states that you wonder if there is a god or not. Why waste so much mental energy when there is no proof of a god?
Hey just to let you know, we are all sick people. We all have something that we must deal with. I'm glad that you are proactive about what you are dealing with. You know there is someone that will and can love you, not because you are physically beautiful, but you are just beautiful. BTW I have no idea who you are, that is the advantage of the internet. You will and can find happiness. Good luck in your quest.

Thanks! Really appreciate it.  :D

[WitchSabrina]

I used to wonder whether or not there was a god........ I used to wonder HARD on it, in fact.  Now :::shrug::: I do believe I've reached the point where I don't give a crap.   :rollin:

Welcome to the shark tank. 8-)   Congrats on working to think for yourself.  Also -There are a few of us girls on here but we're pretty outnumbered I think.  :-D   Hope you like it here.

[PickelledEggs]

Welcome Antyla!

Yes I do have problems

Everyone has problems. It's probably a good thing that you're honest about yours. I've found it's healthier to be open about your faults.... which is why I also see a Psychologist :)  Nothing wrong with that.

I am a sick person.

Obviously I don't know you THAT well, but I can guess that you're probably not as sick as you think... or at least in comparison to other people.


One of the people that went to the art studio I go to was a professional stripper for a number of years. She is a really genuine person... probably more than most people I know.  :)

And I always thought the difference between atheist and agnostic was atheists were more of a nonexistent until proven existent... where agnostic is "who cares? I don't know"

[bada94]

I am also a former adult webcam model,

 [-(

pics or yer a lier...


 :-"





oh yeah,,welcome

Sub if you have a Youtube acc
[youtube:2heuuqed]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPZTL-Uhr70[/youtube:2heuuqed]

You're a big dbz fan aren't you ?
Good.. very good indeed...

[Antyla]

^ I reckon you have recognized the soundtrack that was going on in the background.

[stromboli]

All viewpoints aside, I give you credit for being forthright about yourself. That takes guts, internet or not.

To me the difference between atheist and agnostic is more self definition than anything, two sides of the same river. The argument can be made that we are all agnostic simply because there is no final and absolute evidence to completely rule out god. My experience is that we more or less transcend to atheism, from agnostic to agnostic atheist to hard atheist, which I consider myself now.

[bada94]

^ I reckon you have recognized the soundtrack that was going on in the background.

Hell yes I did. But I can't remember from which game it was, Tenkaichi 3 maybe ?

[Antyla]

^ I reckon you have recognized the soundtrack that was going on in the background.

Hell yes I did. But I can't remember from which game it was, Tenkaichi 3 maybe ?

Yes, it is called Menace.

[bada94]

^ I reckon you have recognized the soundtrack that was going on in the background.

Hell yes I did. But I can't remember from which game it was, Tenkaichi 3 maybe ?

Yes, it is called Menace.

Yeah I've wasted many hours on that game, good times. Teen gohan (ssj 2) was definitely the best character.

[Jmpty]

Welcome.