Porn/Depiction of Women

[SGOS]

When I was younger, [s:1sn22v66]I[/s:1sn22v66] my friends watched TONS of if. The ONLY thing that bothers me about it nowadays is a report I saw on the news where women were being kidnapped and sold into the sex trade and forced to do porn.

Linda Lovelace, the star of Deep Throat, a porn movie which pushed the envelope and brought porn into local theaters in the 1970s claims she was forced by her promoter husband to do the scenes at gunpoint.  She claimed an abusive marriage to get a divorce, but there are skeptics.  

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linda_Lovelace

Boreman [Lovelace] maintained she received no money for Deep Throat and that the $1,250 payment for her appearance was taken by [husband] Traynor.

[The Skeletal Atheist]

Male porn stars on the other had, are 'lucky bastards' with dreamy jobs and they can just quit that occupation to move on anything else and even thrive. I am sure they would have great time telling their experiences to their new admiring colleagues, while a female pron star that managed to quit her job gets refused from every job she is able to do, because of her known past and position. I don't know if you are aware under these circumstances her known position is actually being a female.

I agree with what you said, I just wanted to point out this part is only relevant for heterosexual male porn stars. Gay male porn stars (top, bottom, or versatile) are subjected to the same type of scrutiny that women who were in heterosexual porn have to face. Apparently being touched by a penis on camera makes you an anathema.

[Colanth]

If a women says she feels empowered (or even simply neutral) preforming an act, can society decide that it is demeaning to her or women to at large? Similarly, if an actress describes her feeling after doing a scene with the sentiments quoted in this piece, who is society to deem it as empowering?

Men know what's good for women better than women do.  (Where's the smiley for "disgusted"?)

[WitchSabrina]

If a women says she feels empowered (or even simply neutral) preforming an act, can society decide that it is demeaning to her or women to at large? Similarly, if an actress describes her feeling after doing a scene with the sentiments quoted in this piece, who is society to deem it as empowering?

Men know what's good for women better than women do.  (Where's the smiley for "disgusted"?)

You are referring to chocolates and flowers of course - right?  Otherwise - uh - No.  No they don't.   :rollin:

[Jutter]

[youtube:p5mnovdk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q64hTNEj6KQ[/youtube:p5mnovdk]
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/0 ... 08132.html

[SilentFutility]

While I would agree that the majority of porn is probably aimed at heterosexual males, which is highly likely to be the case as heterosexual males are also likely the biggest consumers of pornography, there is also plenty of pornography showing passionate lovemaking which is geared at both sexes or in some cases even more towards women. This has probably grown in recent years, although I cannot really be sure of this. It does definitely exist though.

That said, this does not mean that some pornography is not degrading.

Another thing I'd like to ask/say, is if porn does depict women, or anyone in a certain negative way, and everybody involved consented to it and is not being exploited, what then? What can be done? Should something be done? Is this problem even rooted in the industry, or is it simply the manifestation of the attitudes held by those who consume it?

[Nonsensei]

If a het woman want to masturbate by watching porn she almost has no choice of porn designed for a heterosexual female point.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=porn+for+women

[hillbillyatheist]

nobody has answered my question. WTF is het porn?

[SilentFutility]

BUT NO MEN, may be VERY few men, would consider to have a serious relationship with a female porn star -or prostitutes- let alone marry them. And that is the very basic problem lying underneath.

How many women would be comfortable with marrying a male escort/porn star?

ONCE they are known with this occupation, it's almost impossible for them to lead a 'normal' life, have a relationship, family or get married someone they choose out of that occupation, let alone move onto a different occupation. (A few exceptions doesn't make any difference.)

How many women would want to have a family with a male pornstar/escort?
Would you knowingly hire an ex-male pornstar or escort for a different job as an employer? I almost certainly wouldn't.

I do in fact agree with some of the points you raised, but these points I'm not as sure about.

[Shiranu]

nobody has answered my question. WTF is het porn?

Heterosexual.

[hillbillyatheist]

nobody has answered my question. WTF is het porn?

Heterosexual.

thanks!

[Skaði]

I'm fine with porn- although I agree with drunkenshoe about there being no porn for heterosexual women and about how unfairly female porn stars(and other women who are more open about sex) are viewed and treated.

As far as media and general depiction of women:
The way women are so prized for their looks and how much their worth is derived from it drives me crazy. I can't tell you how many times someone has told me they don't like a television show/character because the actress isn't pretty. Female characters seem to always have to be beautiful for anyone to like them.

[Jason78]

But there is porn for hetrosexual women.

[Skaði]

People rarely(I'm sure they must -sometimes-) market porn towards het women or concern themselves with what a they would be interested in watching.

[Colanth]

The way women are so prized for their looks and how much their worth is derived from it drives me crazy.

It's called evolution, and it hasn't been long enough since it actually mattered for it to have changed.