Author Topic: Porn/Depiction of Women  (Read 5382 times)

Offline Triple Nine (OP)

Porn/Depiction of Women
« on: August 04, 2013, 04:11:36 PM »
Since this issue seems to have come up this year on the interwebs I think it's important to put out the discussion. What are your views on the sexual depiction of women in art/media/porn/etc.? Now anyone who knows me probably knows where I stand and I wrote a short essay of my thoughts but for now I will keep quiet. How do you feel about these depictions? Do you take a feminist view or not or something not as conventional? I eagerly await your response.
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Re: Porn/Depiction of Women
« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2013, 05:15:02 PM »
I don't really know what the feminist position of how women are portrayed in the different media is, but it seems to me that it would be wrong for me to tell women how they should allow themselves to be portrayed.  It isn't any of my business if a woman wants to have kinky sex in front of a camera for money.  If she wants parade around in her underwear on TV, again it isn't my place to tell her she can't.  If the argument is that women are being forced to do these things, than I would be against forcing anyone to do something they don't want to do.  But, if the so-called "force" is more money for them, then I don't see a problem with it.

Re: Porn/Depiction of Women
« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2013, 07:21:34 PM »
If someone wants to have sex (on camera) for money, they should be allowed to do that.

I don't slut shame so I don't have a problem with it, and since I don't think there is anything inherently "wrong" or "dirty" with sex I don't view porn or stripping or prostitution as degrading.

I also own 13 Fleshlights and bought an external HDD purely just to back up my porn after the horror of accidentally deleting it all once, so I can't say there isn't some bias, lol.
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Re: Porn/Depiction of Women
« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2013, 08:03:19 PM »
Quote from: "ParaGoomba Slayer"
I also own 13 Fleshlights

Why? Do you have 13 dicks?

Re: Porn/Depiction of Women
« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2013, 08:11:08 PM »
Quote from: "ParaGoomba Slayer"
I also own 13 Fleshlights and bought an external HDD purely just to back up my porn after the horror of accidentally deleting it all once, so I can't say there isn't some bias, lol.
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Re: Porn/Depiction of Women
« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2013, 08:22:40 PM »
Quote from: "Valigarmander"
Quote from: "ParaGoomba Slayer"
I also own 13 Fleshlights

Why? Do you have 13 dicks?

Dude, there are so many different inner textures it's hard not to.
Circumcision? HIS body, HIS decision.

Your liberty to swing your fist ends just where my nose begins. This is very simple reasoning that is applied to everything, EXCEPT infant circumcision for some stupid fucking reason.

Re: Porn/Depiction of Women
« Reply #6 on: August 04, 2013, 09:07:26 PM »
It's funny how many abortion activists who would argue that a woman's body is her own, to do with as she wishes, would castigate the same woman if she wished to do porn.

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Offline Mermaid

Re: Porn/Depiction of Women
« Reply #7 on: August 04, 2013, 09:42:55 PM »
How the media portrays women and how porn portrays women are different things to me.
According to the media, women are supposed to be pleasing visually to both men and women and if they aren't, there is a product to correct every flaw. If you don't fit that standard, you are unworthy of love, attention, success and a lot of other things.

How porn portrays women is as sexually submissive yet insatiable creatures who look up at you gratefully when you splat them in the face with sperm.

As far as what I think of women who do porn, I don't care. I don't think any different about them than I would a woman who bags groceries or acts in plays. It's a job. I don't think the damage womankind in general, which a lot of people claim.
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Re: Porn/Depiction of Women
« Reply #8 on: August 04, 2013, 09:44:27 PM »
I don't think women (or men) should be ashamed of their bodys or their sexuality, so I am very pro-porn, and a person expressing their sexuality in general, in art.

That said, I prefer it to be done with a bit of class and art.
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Offline AllPurposeAtheist

Re: Porn/Depiction of Women
« Reply #9 on: August 04, 2013, 10:39:56 PM »
Men are portrayed in porn as all having 9 inch dicks and I know this will come as a disappointment and frankly a rude shock to everyone on this forum, but I don't have a 9 inch dick. 9 milimeters perhaps, but 9 inches.. uhmmm..nope.

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Re: Porn/Depiction of Women
« Reply #10 on: August 04, 2013, 11:58:26 PM »
If porn were abolished tomorrow I can't see anyone's life being better for it.

Am I more likely to take women for granted, or disrespect them because of the porn I watch? Hard question to answer, since I would need a woman to randomly walk up to me and demand I let her introduce my glans to her esophagus, something all the more unlikely to happen since my dick wasn't transplanted onto my pelvis from a stallion.

Porn is not real life. Women in porn are not women IRL. Only a mental case gets the two confused. Only a retard watches Orgy at 30,000 feet starring Candy Deepthrust and Peter Shakestick and thinks that Stacy Flannigan from work must be a slut who secretly wants it because of the video he watched.

So the idea that pornography depicts women in a demeaning fashion doesn't hold any more water with me than the idea that violent video games cause violence IRL. Add to that the fact that a woman's right to choose what to do with her body isn't some fucking menu you get to pick from. "Oh well you can do this with your body but not that because it makes the rest of us look bad." LOL FUCK YOU?

Maybe in the 70's when half the porn available was produced by the mafia who exploited women by getting them addicted to drugs then forcing them to do a porno in exchange for their next fix, I would have had a real problem with porn. But today its like a billion dollar industry with laws and strict controls. The industry is very health and safety conscious and the actors are well compensated.

Its a job, and it would be like any other if it weren't for the type of feminist who thinks that something like giving a guy a blowjob is some form of submission to the patriarchy. Yeesh.
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Re: Porn/Depiction of Women
« Reply #11 on: August 05, 2013, 02:14:03 AM »
Quote from: "AllPurposeAtheist"
Men are portrayed in porn as all having 9 inch dicks and I know this will come as a disappointment and frankly a rude shock to everyone on this forum, but I don't have a 9 inch dick. 9 milimeters perhaps, but 9 inches.. uhmmm..nope.

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Re: Porn/Depiction of Women
« Reply #12 on: August 05, 2013, 02:25:14 AM »
Quote from: "Triple Nine"
What are your views on the sexual depiction of women in art/media/porn/etc.?

Adults have sex.  And I see nothing wrong with them having sex for money or showing themselves off sexually for money.
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Re: Porn/Depiction of Women
« Reply #13 on: August 05, 2013, 02:33:04 AM »
A recent NPR piece mentioned a study comparing porn consumption, gender equality and sexual relations in Norway, American and Japan--which ranked 1st, 15th and 54th, respectively, on the Gender Empowerment Measure. The study found that "depictions of coercive sex in pornography are about as common in Norway as in other countries" but "that Norwegian pornography was more likely than Japanese pornography to show women in empowered roles, with U.S. pornography falling in the middle". It was also mentioned that a different study"found that as pornography consumption has soared in Japan in recent decades, reported cases of sexual violence against women have fallen dramatically." (There is more to the article, which I found very interesting; it is not strictly on topic here, but I encourage you to read it).

So pornography in general, and even pornography depicting women being coerced into sex, appears not to be incompatible with the advancement of women and may reduce sexual-violence against them; Porn depicting women in empowered rolls appears to correlates with women being empowered in real life. (I would be very interested to see studies on whether the depictions of empowered women in porn resulted from the empowerment of women in real life or if porn-empowerment preceded or even perhaps helped facilitate real-world-empowerment.)

That certainly is not the storyline I generally hear about porn and the impact it has on women.
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Re: Porn/Depiction of Women
« Reply #14 on: August 05, 2013, 04:09:02 AM »
What's an "empowered role" for women in porn?  Are we talking like Joanna Angel here?
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