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Space Penetrator = Great Success
« on: July 16, 2013, 10:07:44 PM »
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British engineers report successful test of space penetrator
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Offline Plu

Re: Space Penetrator = Great Success
« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2013, 03:01:53 AM »
Because the best way for humans to go look for life is to shoot giant hunks of metal at it :D


But still, pretty awesome.

Offline aitm

Re: Space Penetrator = Great Success
« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2013, 08:40:04 AM »
FISTING...HAHAHAHA
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Offline Solitary

Re: Space Penetrator = Great Success
« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2013, 08:44:40 AM »
Thanks for the info! I thought it was going to be about a new Super Hero.  :shock: Solitary
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Offline Hakurei Reimu

Re: Space Penetrator = Great Success
« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2013, 08:48:38 AM »
"Space Penetrator" sounds like something Robbaz would make.

Very Kerbal.
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Re: Space Penetrator = Great Success
« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2013, 11:41:06 AM »
Yeah, looking at the thread title I was half expecting something from the Ann Summers Catalogue.  I am disappoint.  [-(

Offline Colanth

Re: Space Penetrator = Great Success
« Reply #6 on: July 20, 2013, 04:15:13 PM »
One problem with this - haven't we learned anything yet?  Assuming that there IS life on Europa, what's to say that there is any near where this thing penetrates?  A Martian probe landing in the middle of the Gobi would probably report that there's no life on Earth.
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Offline Plu

Re: Space Penetrator = Great Success
« Reply #7 on: July 20, 2013, 05:01:04 PM »
If that probe has any kind of decent sensor array, there's plenty of life going around in the desert. Probably wouldn't find evidence of humans, but loads of animals make it their home.

Offline The Skeletal Atheist

Re: Space Penetrator = Great Success
« Reply #8 on: July 20, 2013, 05:11:56 PM »
Space Penetrator....humanity is finally making steps towards its true purpose: Raping each and every planet.

In all seriousness, this thing is cool as hell and I up the best for it on its mission to fuck, then study, Europa.
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Offline Colanth

Re: Space Penetrator = Great Success
« Reply #9 on: July 22, 2013, 04:29:25 PM »
Let's just hope that it's TOTALLY sterilized before it lands.  Otherwise, in a few months or years it'll find DNA-based life and give us a totally false picture of things.
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Offline Plu

Re: Space Penetrator = Great Success
« Reply #10 on: July 22, 2013, 04:56:13 PM »
It's blasting through space,  penetrating a planet's atmosphere at over the speed of sound, before cushioning its fall on bare rock... I'm pretty sure it's sterile by the time it lands :P

Offline Colanth

Re: Space Penetrator = Great Success
« Reply #11 on: July 23, 2013, 03:16:03 PM »
Flying through space doesn't sterilize, traveling through an atmosphere at the speed of sound doesn't sterilize and the landing would have to be hard enough to totally destroy the probe to completely sterilize it.  Sterilization has to be done deliberately.  Even a single microbial cyst surviving the landing could wipe out any life already there and replace it fast enough that we would think that it was the indigenous life.
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Offline The Skeletal Atheist

Re: Space Penetrator = Great Success
« Reply #12 on: July 23, 2013, 03:26:44 PM »
I would hope that has been considered before sending the probe out. Though imagine how cool it would be if we were to deliberately kick start life on a planet/moon that was previously lifeless. Imagine how evolution would progress when a couple of extremophiles have dominion over an entire planet/moon.
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Offline Plu

Re: Space Penetrator = Great Success
« Reply #13 on: July 23, 2013, 03:35:26 PM »
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Flying through space doesn't sterilize, traveling through an atmosphere at the speed of sound doesn't sterilize and the landing would have to be hard enough to totally destroy the probe to completely sterilize it.

Are you sure? If that's true then earth-based life is far tougher than I gave it credit for, and I consider it to be very hardy. But surviving atmospheric re-entry? That'd be impressive.

(And of course they'd take care to sterilize it before they send it in, I don't think they're that stupid :P)

Offline Colanth

Re: Space Penetrator = Great Success
« Reply #14 on: July 24, 2013, 12:57:00 AM »
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Flying through space doesn't sterilize, traveling through an atmosphere at the speed of sound doesn't sterilize and the landing would have to be hard enough to totally destroy the probe to completely sterilize it.

Are you sure? If that's true then earth-based life is far tougher than I gave it credit for, and I consider it to be very hardy. But surviving atmospheric re-entry? That'd be impressive.
Not if the organisms weren't on a part of the vehicle that didn't get too hot.

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(And of course they'd take care to sterilize it before they send it in, I don't think they're that stupid :P)
Not stupid, but a single microbe spore or virus would be enough to contaminate an entire lifeless planet.  And quite difficult to be absolutely certain we didn't miss.  Nine nines is nowhere near being good enough in this case.
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