Author Topic: Newbie here!  (Read 8509 times)

Offline AllPurposeAtheist

Re: Newbie here!
« Reply #60 on: October 18, 2013, 09:16:00 PM »
You want a god to be there. I get that. I want this god to love me too and to make Warren Buffet adopt me as his long lost sonny boy, but it ain't happening and I don't buy it nor do I buy that this 'loving god' will burn me for eternity to show 'his' displeasure'
You're better off with toothfairyanism and realise the dental deity pays cold hard cash, picks up and delivers..  :lol:
All hail my new signature!

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Re: Newbie here!
« Reply #61 on: October 18, 2013, 09:17:38 PM »
Oh wow. I didn't realize this was 4 pages long. I missed a lot of the conversation!  :lol:

Edit: 5 pages long

Offline AllPurposeAtheist

Re: Newbie here!
« Reply #62 on: October 18, 2013, 09:22:23 PM »
Quote from: "PickelledEggs"
Oh wow. I didn't realize this was 4 pages long. I missed a lot of the conversation!  :lol:

Edit: 5 pages long
I prayed for being the first post of page 5. What a coincidence! :shock:
All hail my new signature!

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Re: Newbie here!
« Reply #63 on: October 18, 2013, 09:50:06 PM »
Quote from: "PickelledEggs"
Oh wow. I didn't realize this was 4 pages long. I missed a lot of the conversation!  :lol:

Edit: 5 pages long

haha you have missed a lot! But glad you've joined! I don't know how much more I'll be on this particular thread...I want to hang around some more in other places, but it was good to meet you all the same!

Re: Newbie here!
« Reply #64 on: October 18, 2013, 09:53:12 PM »
Quote from: "AllPurposeAtheist"
Quote from: "PickelledEggs"
Oh wow. I didn't realize this was 4 pages long. I missed a lot of the conversation!  :lol:

Edit: 5 pages long
I prayed for being the first post of page 5. What a coincidence! :shock:
I suspect you had an extra tooth to put under the pillow for that extra bit of magic?  =D>  :lol:

 
Quote from: "AlwaysLearning"
haha you have missed a lot! But glad you've joined! I don't know how much more I'll be on this particular thread...I want to hang around some more in other places, but it was good to meet you all the same!
Nice to meet you too  :)

Re: Newbie here!
« Reply #65 on: October 18, 2013, 10:15:47 PM »
Quote from: "AllPurposeAtheist"
...nor do I buy that this 'loving god' will burn me for eternity to show 'his' displeasure'...

He doesn't "burn us" because He is displeased with us. God is totally loving, but He is also totally just and holy. Because of these characteristics nothing unholy can be in His presence. Not because He is too good for us but literally because it cannot exist in His presence...men who would go into the place in the temple where God's presence would reside would fall and die if they had not done the proper rituals to "cover over their sins". If we choose to reject God and what happened on the cross then we "haven't done the proper rituals to cover over our sins" and we will "die". Hope that clarifies.

Believe me...it is a great displeasure for God to "burn us".

Offline _Xenu_

Re: Newbie here!
« Reply #66 on: October 19, 2013, 05:51:51 AM »
Quote from: "mykcob4"
Quote from: "AlwaysLearning"
Just wanted to introduce myself! My name is Stephanie, I'm 22 years old, and recently married (totally in love!). I love the outdoors; hiking, biking, and rock climbing. Also, I enjoy crafts and photography as occasional hobbies and would really like to learn how to make quilts. I go to school online (full time) at Liberty University, but don't hold me to their beliefs. I am indeed a Christian, but I don't affiliate myself with one specific denomination. I'm not here to "convince you that you're stupid" like some might believe, because I know quite the contrary! I used to be an atheist and was on a few atheist forum communities myself and I remember how intelligent the people on those boards were. So, I'm back to learn how to defend my beliefs a little better and address some really good questions that people have about Christianity. So ask away!
Liberty University is not a real school. It's a brainwash center for sheep that grants a fake degree. Liberty is a disgrace. It doesn't teach good science and replaces it with pseudo- science that fits its political believes.
You could have never been an atheist because there is no such thing as an atheist converting to christian. The fact is that you were a person that didn't know what to believe in and you allowed someone to brainwash you. An atheist thinks for themselves and isn't taken in by things that have no bearing in fact.
I put it to you that you cannot prove a god, a miracle or anything that can be associated by the christian tenets.
Heres a test about your socalled university. Do they teach that this nation was based on judeo-christian principles or that this is and always has been a secular nation? If they don't endorse the latter then their accreditation is invalid.
Pseudo-science, revissionist history, is all that is taught at the jerry falwell school of brainwashing known as liberty university. Just look at the name of the city where it is founded. It's Lynchburg Tennessee. It's called Lynchburg because they practiced lynching blacks. So racial prejudice is a hallmark of your socalled school. They beleive that you can "pray the gay away', as if gays have a choice of who and how they are.
So newbie I welcome you to have HONEST discussions, but I certainly don't believe that will ever happen as your core belief is based on a lie and a myth. All christians are hypocrites, so it will take a great deal for you to prove otherwise. I have a slogan for all christains, and conservatives, especially those associated with liberty university: "Do us all a favor and kill yourself, but be considerate and don't leave a mess."
This is a SECULAR nation. Religion is a myth and a lie. There is no god and never has been.
So go find Elvis, bigfoot, Nessy, but don't come here and pretend that you are the first and what would be the only christian that first converted from atheism (never happened), that you are pusuing a REAL degree from a REAL university, that you an intellect worthy of consideration.
Do us all a favor......!
Could you at least make an effort to not be a complete asshole?
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Offline Plu

Re: Newbie here!
« Reply #67 on: October 19, 2013, 06:10:28 AM »
Quote from: "AlwaysLearning"
Quote from: "AllPurposeAtheist"
...nor do I buy that this 'loving god' will burn me for eternity to show 'his' displeasure'...

He doesn't "burn us" because He is displeased with us. God is totally loving, but He is also totally just and holy. Because of these characteristics nothing unholy can be in His presence. Not because He is too good for us but literally because it cannot exist in His presence...men who would go into the place in the temple where God's presence would reside would fall and die if they had not done the proper rituals to "cover over their sins". If we choose to reject God and what happened on the cross then we "haven't done the proper rituals to cover over our sins" and we will "die". Hope that clarifies.

Believe me...it is a great displeasure for God to "burn us".

There are so many logical contradictions in this "explanation" that it's not even really worth going over them :(
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Offline Mermaid

Re: Newbie here!
« Reply #68 on: October 19, 2013, 10:26:43 AM »
Quote from: "AlwaysLearning"
Women are actually quite loved by God (at least the God I know). A good wife is considered far more precious than rubies, and women are considered wise, kind, helpful, and loving. I like to joke that God made us second so He made us a little better tehe  :wink:
This is probably true until this "good wife" wants to have control over her own life and her own body.
We are tied to the ocean. And when we go back to the sea, whether it is to sail or to watch - we are going back from whence we came.

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Offline FrankDK

Re: Newbie here!
« Reply #69 on: October 19, 2013, 10:36:08 AM »

Offline stromboli

Re: Newbie here!
« Reply #70 on: October 21, 2013, 11:14:22 AM »
This just in

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The Kansas Supreme Court on Friday indefinitely suspended the law license of the state's former attorney general, finding that he engaged in "ethical misconduct" in his aggressive pursuit of charges against abortion providers in the state.

In a unanimous decision, the court found that former Attorney General Phill Kline, 53, broke professional conduct rules and tended towards "overzealous advocacy" for his cause, Reuters reported. According to the ruling, the court was worried by Kline's "inability or refusal" to acknowledge his misconduct.

The Supreme Court found that Kline committed "significant and numerous" violations to advance his investigations, the Associated Press reported. His infractions included repeatedly misleading or allowing his employees to mislead others -- including a grand jury.

According to the Kansas City Star, Kline was found to have made "'false and misleading' statements to the Supreme Court about the handling of patient records obtained during the criminal investigations," among other infractions.

George Tiller, the Wichita doctor who was killed in 2009 for providing abortions, was one of Kline's subjects of investigation. Kline also led an investigation into a branch of Planned Parenthood located in the town of Overland Park, a suburb of Kansas City. In 2007, that investigation culminated in a 107-count indictment where Kline alleged that Planned Parenthood had falsified records and performed illegal abortions. The case was later dropped by current Johnson County district Attorney Steve Howe.

Kline now teaches at Liberty University in Virginia, a private Christian school founded by anti-gay pastor and televangelist Jerry Falwell.


Liberty may or may not be accredited, but to give tenure to a man whose ability to practice law was suspended  and willfully and repeatedly violated the ethical conduct of his office does not speak to a quality education. The point is that the school's agenda is not one of a rounded education, but having specific leanings to a fundamentally conservative religious view.
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Offline Solitary

Re: Newbie here!
« Reply #71 on: October 21, 2013, 12:13:15 PM »
:roll:  I still didn't get an answer to who the gods were that God was talking to in the Garden Of Eden.

This being in the Bible (Any of them!), shows that the idea of one God is a myth. There are also many people mentioned in Scripture that are also named in Pagan religions which show this. The idea of a "loving god" that is not tainted by sin by sending people to hell is as irrational as thinking can get. Love doesn't prove there is a God anymore than fear or hate does, it only shows that the concept of God is probably based on our image and not the other way around.

 Every Christian I have heard supports their faith in God based on pick and choose in Scripture from what they already believe from hatred, love, fear, bigotry, prejudice, they're special, and being absolutely right with its support. In other words being neurotic or insane and unable to think rationally and soundly. And anytime you ask a question that blatantly is an obvious contradiction to their beliefs they become silent.    :roll: Solitary
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