Author Topic: Jesus as a Hedging for Afterlife  (Read 4139 times)

Offline stromboli

Re: Jesus as a Hedging for Afterlife
« Reply #30 on: July 02, 2013, 07:18:51 PM »
There is no more reason to believe Jesus did what he claimed than any other aspect of the bible. The bible is the word of god or it isn't. God exists or he doesn't. God can't be anything but what he claims- omnipotent, omniescent, immortal, etc. Neither can Jesus. An thing that qualifies god's nature negates it. You can't have a partial god and a complete Jesus, because they are one in the same.
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Re: Jesus as a Hedging for Afterlife
« Reply #31 on: July 03, 2013, 05:56:31 AM »
Quote from: "emulio"
One thought is, it is just maybe Jesus can really do what he claimed to do. Until now, we don't have any evidence that refutes Jesus' claim.
Oh, puh-leze! We don't have much GOOD evidence that the biblical Jesus ever lived.
We 'new atheists' have a reputation for being militant, but make no mistake  we didn't start this war. If you want to place blame put it on the the religious zealots who have been poisoning the minds of the  young for a long long time."
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Re: Jesus as a Hedging for Afterlife
« Reply #32 on: July 03, 2013, 11:19:41 AM »
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Offline Colanth

Re: Jesus as a Hedging for Afterlife
« Reply #33 on: July 04, 2013, 11:38:48 PM »
Quote from: "Gawdzilla Sama"
Oh, puh-leze! We don't have much GOOD evidence that the biblical Jesus ever lived.
For values of "much" that are indistinguishable from "not the slightest shred".  The only original assertion that Jesus was a real person is the Gospels.  (Of which we don't have an actual shred until the 2nd century at best.)  Paul merely claimed that Jesus - who was residing in the 7th heaven at the time (after having been killed in the first heaven), somehow informed him, Paul, about himself (Jesus).

These days, if someone says that he got mysterious messages in his head from someone, we diagnose him as schizophrenic and medicate him to prevent the hallucinations.

So 2 billion people believe the ravings of a 2,000-year dead schizo, and tell us that we'll be punished forever if we don't believe too.  Lewis's trilemma is actually a dilemma, it's Paul, not Jesus, and he was either a liar or a lunatic.  (300 years later, Constantine took advantage of the myth and created a religion that makes less sense than believing that Scientology works.  And in that case, we have its inventor's own word that he did it for the money.)
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