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Is it evil to be a billionaire?
« on: November 20, 2021, 12:08:10 AM »
People should not be allowed to be billionaires.


Offline aitm

Re: Is it evil to be a billionaire?
« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2021, 10:51:54 AM »
Without watching the video, I say no. However, I believe it is morally repugnant to remain a billionaire.
A humans desire to live is exceeded only by their willingness to die for another. Even god cannot equal this magnificent sacrifice. No god has the right to judge them.-first tenant of the Panotheust

Re: Is it evil to be a billionaire?
« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2021, 12:50:00 AM »
In and of itself, one's net worth would not make one "evil"
(by the way.....DUH...)
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Re: Is it evil to be a billionaire?
« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2021, 04:04:13 AM »
Without having seen the clip  i will say that i've always been fond of the saying: The Only Thing Necessary for the Triumph of Evil is that Good Men Do Nothing.
And i would say that inaction when you have the opportunity for action is a choice in and by itseld. And if said choice allows 'evil', to continue then that is where your allignment falls.
Which is all without touching on the cost and suffering we know is inflicted on the world and its peoples, that gathering such wealth entails.

But i'll go one further. By said logic, i define myself as evil. I am no billionaire. But the iphone and ipad i bought for the gf are not free of blood. Every airplane flight to a holiday destination i have taken has been a willing forestfire that I deemed less worthy than my own fun. I prefer to go out to dinner from time to time rather than donate the excess cash to a good cause. I spend my lazy sunday afternoons playing games rather than helping out in a soup kitchen.

I think it is human nature. Were someone less fortunate have been in my place, they would probably act and live in a similar way to how i do now.
But yes, i concider myself evil, because my lifestyle and my choices cause for a nett loss in the world.
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Offline aitm

Re: Is it evil to be a billionaire?
« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2021, 05:02:56 AM »
In and of itself, one's net worth would not make one "evil"
(by the way.....DUH...)
I would suggest “net worth” is a subjective value. Is monetary wealth less important than say….personal property? If I have the only fire extinguisher and as it is mine I am free to use it as I wish. So if I walk past your unconscious body in your burning car without using my personal wealth to help you am I evil? Of course not….
A humans desire to live is exceeded only by their willingness to die for another. Even god cannot equal this magnificent sacrifice. No god has the right to judge them.-first tenant of the Panotheust

Re: Is it evil to be a billionaire?
« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2021, 07:54:16 AM »
It is ethically wrong to use your money to influence elected politicians and to evade taxes. We can vote in people who will stop all this political donation bullshit and raise the marginal rates on the super wealthy. It's wasn't rocket science to earlier generations but for now the US voting block is a headless chicken.

Offline Hydra009

Re: Is it evil to be a billionaire?
« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2021, 10:32:14 PM »
For comparison, a million seconds is about a week and a half.  A billion seconds is about 32 years.  HUGE difference.

And something else to keep in mind:  a person wealthy enough to buy anything is a person wealthy enough to buy our democracy.

Re: Is it evil to be a billionaire?
« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2021, 11:14:17 PM »
Don't have to be wealthy enough to buy anything, to buy a politician, sad to say. Some of those people will vote how you want based on a fractured ideology.

Re: Is it evil to be a billionaire?
« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2021, 08:53:58 AM »
Could Elon Musk end world hunger with $6 billion? 5 questions, answered

This is an interesting article on how solving world hunger is more complicated than putting people into space. Elon Musk tweeted that he might be willing to donate $6 billion to hunger relief if the United Nations can prove it can solve world hunger “right now.” Musk's safe bet means he clearly understands the obstacles involved in world hunger.

There is enough food on Earth to feed everyone. Millions are going hungry not because of a global inability to grow enough food, although this could change as climate-related disasters, such as extreme heat, droughts, floods, and storms, diminish agricultural productivity. These climate change impacts will increase if society does not act quickly enough.

Today, hunger is a result of conflict, poor infrastructure, inequality, and poverty. For instance, after years of conflict in Yemen, over 5 million people are on the brink of famine. And as the Syrian conflict reaches its 10-year mark, 12.4 million people — over 60 percent of the population there — are struggling to get enough to eat. ...

The WFP says it needs an additional $6.6 billion beyond its annual budget to alleviate world hunger today. At least, in theory, the richest people on Earth could easily afford to accomplish this feat year after year. The wealthiest one percent of Americans alone held a combined net worth of $34.2 trillion in 2020.

Even if the rich were to pony up, it takes more than money to solve hunger. Infrastructure is organized by governments, increasing equality often requires mass civil movements, and policy change and reducing conflict require intergovernmental diplomacy. ...

Offline Hydra009

Re: Is it evil to be a billionaire?
« Reply #9 on: November 23, 2021, 07:30:22 PM »
This is an interesting article on how solving world hunger is more complicated than putting people into space. Elon Musk tweeted that he might be willing to donate $6 billion to hunger relief if the United Nations can prove it can solve world hunger “right now.” Musk's safe bet means he clearly understands the obstacles involved in world hunger.
Or he's lying and is just  shitposting (literally, as he admitted pretty recently) on Twitter for attention.

Re: Is it evil to be a billionaire?
« Reply #10 on: November 23, 2021, 08:25:58 PM »
Or he's lying and is just  shitposting (literally, as he admitted pretty recently) on Twitter for attention.

He's salty because of the billionaires tax.

Offline Hydra009

Re: Is it evil to be a billionaire?
« Reply #11 on: November 23, 2021, 10:40:49 PM »
He's salty because of the billionaires tax.
Pretty much.  You don't get that rich by being generous.  And you certainly don't give it away on a whim to win an argument on the internet.
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