Author Topic: Is it wrong to tell Christians what's wrong with their religion?  (Read 586 times)

Re: Is it wrong to tell Christians what's wrong with their religion?
« Reply #30 on: October 09, 2021, 09:45:10 PM »
That said, if you came in here trying to sell us on religios views, we'd probably ban you instantly. Similarly, don't be surprised if you go to a religious community and get shit on for disrespecting their dynamic.

Really? And here I thought that atheists are openminded. I'll just have to look into starting my own forum. I'll make it free and open to everybody: Christian, atheist, and Hare Krishna. I'll let people go in and mix it up making whatever argument they want to make respecting their freedom of speech.

What can I say? I hate censorship and love free speech.

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Re: Is it wrong to tell Christians what's wrong with their religion?
« Reply #31 on: October 09, 2021, 09:49:34 PM »
I would throw the sound of your own voice in there as well...
Terrorism is when you do what we do but wear a different uniform than us.

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Re: Is it wrong to tell Christians what's wrong with their religion?
« Reply #32 on: October 09, 2021, 10:14:20 PM »
Jagella, you need to understand, before you get upset with us, is we have been here for years, many of us for more  than a decade. We have heard every argument, we have heard every atheist argument as well…what is new for you to hear is old hat to us. Some of us even get tired of newbies reciting their points that we have heard a hundred times. But we try to be supportive of their new found belief and offer our insight, but even we get a bit bored with the same recital of the same verse we found strange 20 years ago. So understand while we support the idea of atheism we also get tired of pointing out stuff we have understood for many years. Don’t get offensive…we already did that for you.
A humans desire to live is exceeded only by their willingness to die for another. Even god cannot equal this magnificent sacrifice. No god has the right to judge them.-first tenant of the Panotheust

Re: Is it wrong to tell Christians what's wrong with their religion?
« Reply #33 on: October 09, 2021, 10:39:22 PM »
Jagella, you need to understand, before you get upset with us, is we have been here for years, many of us for more  than a decade. We have heard every argument, we have heard every atheist argument as well…what is new for you to hear is old hat to us. Some of us even get tired of newbies reciting their points that we have heard a hundred times. But we try to be supportive of their new found belief and offer our insight, but even we get a bit bored with the same recital of the same verse we found strange 20 years ago. So understand while we support the idea of atheism we also get tired of pointing out stuff we have understood for many years. Don’t get offensive…we already did that for you.

I've often wondered if there are legal requirements regarding online forums, and that's why forums always have those stifling rules.

Anyway, if I want to silence somebody, my approach is to demonstrate how they're wrong. It's worked for me innumerable times.

Re: Is it wrong to tell Christians what's wrong with their religion?
« Reply #34 on: October 09, 2021, 11:02:56 PM »
Hmmm. I always saw forums for debate and exchanging ideas. But it looks like they're more of a coffee klatch for many people.

And I'd recommend you check out the Nazi-Christian connection because some Christian apologists are equating atheism and Nazism.
Some are just exclusive communities for support.
I didn't join a Scion forum to debate whether or not my tC was a good car or not. I joined it to have a support network, in case I wanted to fix or improve it. This community is somewhat like that, in that many people join to find community, especially with something as ostracizing as being an atheist can be. The fact that we are also inclusive of marginalized groups like people of color and the LGBTQ+ communities is another reason people would join here and call it home. We aren't all here to debate with an X-tian, although we do enjoy an occasional chewtoy to roughouse.

This is the internet. You can do what you want and you'll relatively get by unscathed by concequences, like you otherwise would if you were to strike an argument on the street with some random person wearing a crucifix. You aren't going to be punched in the face for derailing someone's day with an argument they aren't interested in having.

Consent is the issue here. If you were to go to a resturaunt with your spouse and children and all of a sudden bunch of pornstars just started fucking in the middle of the room for a recording, they'd get arrested and charged as a sex offender. It wasn't consented by the people or the setting.

You're doing the same to a lot of people. There is better, more effective uses of your time and energy that doesn't essentially equate you to the kind of person that goes to funeral homes and screams at everyone "HE ISN'T IN HEAVEN BECAUSE IT DOESN'T EXIST"

You're an asshole, even though you think you're right. You're allowed to be an asshole, but they're allowed to ban you for going against their conduct. You probably didn't even read the rules for the site. I can bet it says to not proselytize to them, in one form or another. I'm not even sure they would know what that word means, but I can bet all the money that they have a clause in their rules that addresses that and says for members to NOT do that. In the same way I would ban a religious person for doing that here, they can do that there.

Don't come whining to us that your crusade got shot down by basic social dynamics that you aren't even trying to understand.

Re: Is it wrong to tell Christians what's wrong with their religion?
« Reply #35 on: October 09, 2021, 11:08:33 PM »
I've often wondered if there are legal requirements regarding online forums, and that's why forums always have those stifling rules.

Anyway, if I want to silence somebody, my approach is to demonstrate how they're wrong. It's worked for me innumerable times.
Then make your own platform and take a course on government. It seems you might not fully understand how it works.

Re: Is it wrong to tell Christians what's wrong with their religion?
« Reply #36 on: October 09, 2021, 11:10:29 PM »
People make all sorts of assumptions about each other in real life. I think people are genuinely disappointed when they learn I am an unholy unbeliever who will not play in their worship band. Somehow they still like me. Then and only then....I might give them a "zinger" or two to maybe think about. That is almost impossible to do online.

Once in a great while someone will actually ask me why. That is usually someone who is having their own doubts. Then I hit them with the real deal....all the stuff they never learned in a pew. That's how it happened to me. I was ready and looking to substantiate my issues with the whole religion thing.

Re: Is it wrong to tell Christians what's wrong with their religion?
« Reply #37 on: October 09, 2021, 11:12:57 PM »

You're an asshole...

OK, that's it. I'm out.

Online Shiranu

Re: Is it wrong to tell Christians what's wrong with their religion?
« Reply #38 on: October 09, 2021, 11:29:49 PM »
Bye have a good time.
Terrorism is when you do what we do but wear a different uniform than us.

Re: Is it wrong to tell Christians what's wrong with their religion?
« Reply #39 on: October 10, 2021, 11:21:21 AM »
OK, that's it. I'm out.
Don't let the door hit you on the way out. Come back when you grow up.

Re: Is it wrong to tell Christians what's wrong with their religion?
« Reply #40 on: October 10, 2021, 11:23:17 AM »
Acts like an asshole and gets offended when we don't validate him. Haven't seen that one before...  :what:

Online Shiranu

Re: Is it wrong to tell Christians what's wrong with their religion?
« Reply #41 on: October 10, 2021, 01:28:54 PM »
Big Karen energy from him.
Terrorism is when you do what we do but wear a different uniform than us.

Re: Is it wrong to tell Christians what's wrong with their religion?
« Reply #42 on: October 23, 2021, 10:45:53 PM »
Don't let the door hit you on the way out. Come back when you grow up.

Hi Mr. Maturity. Did you thank the kids on the playground for telling you what mean name to call me? In any case, I see there's no activity in this subsection. It's really boring for atheists to sit around telling each other there's no God.

Yawn!
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Online Shiranu

Re: Is it wrong to tell Christians what's wrong with their religion?
« Reply #43 on: October 23, 2021, 11:12:22 PM »
Welcome back.
Terrorism is when you do what we do but wear a different uniform than us.

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Re: Is it wrong to tell Christians what's wrong with their religion?
« Reply #44 on: October 23, 2021, 11:34:59 PM »
Hi Mr. Maturity. Did you thank the kids on the playground for telling you what mean name to call me? In any case, I see there's no activity in this subsection. It's really boring for atheists to sit around telling each other there's no God.
Do me a favor, check out the 10 most recently active threads and tell me how many of them are about debating God's existence.