How would US Civil War 2.0 go?

Started by arch warmonger, June 07, 2021, 01:57:58 AM

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trdsf

Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on June 07, 2021, 06:51:22 PM
They rationalize everything.
I don't think 'rational' is quite the right word to use.  How about "They make up some bullshit and promptly believe it"?
"My faith in the Constitution is whole, it is complete, it is total, and I am not going to sit here and be an idle spectator to the diminution, the subversion, the destruction of the Constitution." -- Barbara Jordan

SGOS

Quote from: Mr.Obvious on June 07, 2021, 03:29:40 PM
As a non-american, nor a republican or a Democrat, in my view it's not the left that is pushing for a civil war.
Warmonger is just pushing this view to make the right wing's plans to overthrow democracy sound like they are not the idea of the lunatic fringe. It's also possible that he is projecting.  Or he could be a member of Q anon, or a Russian bot. His nickname is a clue to his purpose here.

Gawdzilla Sama

Quote from: trdsf on June 07, 2021, 09:21:30 PM
I don't think 'rational' is quite the right word to use.  How about "They make up some bullshit and promptly believe it"?
"You use them big words just to piss us off, don't ya."
We 'new atheists' have a reputation for being militant, but make no mistake  we didn't start this war. If you want to place blame put it on the the religious zealots who have been poisoning the minds of the  young for a long long time."
PZ Myers

Gawdzilla Sama

Quote from: SGOS on June 08, 2021, 07:43:40 AM
Warmonger is just pushing this view to make the right wing's plans to overthrow democracy sound like they are not the idea of the lunatic fringe. It's also possible that he is projecting.  Or he could be a member of Q anon, or a Russian bot. His nickname is a clue to his purpose here.
Or just a troll.
We 'new atheists' have a reputation for being militant, but make no mistake  we didn't start this war. If you want to place blame put it on the the religious zealots who have been poisoning the minds of the  young for a long long time."
PZ Myers

arch warmonger

#19
This is Kyle Rittenhouse. He went to the Kenosha riot without the intention to massacre rioters or even to enforce any kind of law, and yet he managed to kill 2 people and severely injure a third, in each instance in reaction to somebody else's attack. If he had gone in with the intention to just kill people he probably would have dispersed the riot by himself.



He's not some crazy ex-Navy Seal. He's not some crazy who lives in a shack in the woods training all day. He's a kid who paints fences for fun.



You're going up against a group of people who own more guns than the rest of the world combined, who have night vision and thermal up the ass.



This guy gets it.



Do you feel lucky, punk?

Sorginak

More evidence of white privilege right there.

Mike Cl

Quote from: Sorginak on June 08, 2021, 10:09:17 PM
More evidence of white privilege right there.
and white stupidity and arrogance.
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?<br />Then he is not omnipotent,<br />Is he able but not willing?<br />Then whence cometh evil?<br />Is he neither able or willing?<br />Then why call him god?

Shiranu

I love that right-wingers really think leftists don't own guns.
"A little science distances you from God, but a lot of science brings you nearer to Him." - Louis Pasteur

arch warmonger

#23
Right, and how many left-wing militants and sympathizers in any given city? Like a few hundred to a few thousand? How much do you train? How many guns do you own? Vs Cletus and all his friends owning 5 AR's and a stack of bullets that doubles in size every time there's a whiff of new gun control legislation playing with guns day in day out on their private land. And oh all those black and brown gangs who hate whitey, you think they'll follow you? Or do you think maybe they'll just loot and pillage randomly without giving a shit about what the white left says except to hunt down and beat the shit out of LGBTards the way they do now in places with low police presence? Who exactly do you think are killing all those BLACK TRANS WOMEN

And how well do you think leftists would maintain control if the cities were to go to them? Look at CHAZ, it had a murder rate PER WEEK of like 2 per 100. And that's with a steady supply of food and donations from outside with people being able to come and go whenever they want, a small area that should have been manageable, and the threat of a police crackdown looming in the background. If CHAZ was a preview of things to come then holy fucking shit this will be hilarious. They don't even have to kill you, you'll kill each other.

tl;dr


Mr.Obvious

Quote from: arch warmonger on June 08, 2021, 09:41:51 PM

You're going up against a group of people who own more guns than the rest of the world combined, who have night vision and thermal up the ass.


So long as they still have to share those seven braincells amongst the lot of them, however, I'm sure my friends from across the ocean will be fine.
"If we have to go down, we go down together!"
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arch warmonger

Yeah I'm sure your intersectionality magic will solve all your problems. I'm sure it'll beat bullets and buckshot.

Blackleaf

Quote from: arch warmonger on June 08, 2021, 09:41:51 PMYou're going up against a group of people

Excuse me. We're not going up against anybody. You're the one's trying to pick a fight. Luckily for us, you're too stupid to find your way out of paper bag. You dumbasses tried to start a revolution this year. Did law enforcement take your side? Nope. Did the military step in and help you? Nope. Yet you've convinced yourself that they'll be in your corner when this imaginary Civil War comes. I wish Trump would have tried to stay in the White House. Then we would have had the pleasure of seeing him forcefully removed by the military, and any hopes you had of a revolution completely squashed. You're completely delusional.
"Oh, wearisome condition of humanity,
Born under one law, to another bound;
Vainly begot, and yet forbidden vanity,
Created sick, commanded to be sound."
--Fulke Greville--

arch warmonger

So you admit it, you need the cops and the military to be unified, organized, and on your side. You're utterly dependent on them.

Blackleaf

Quote from: arch warmonger on June 09, 2021, 01:47:14 AM
So you admit it, you need the cops and the military to be unified, organized, and on your side. You're utterly dependent on them.

Having an army does help when you're fighting a war, yes. And you're living in a fantasy world if you think they're going to betray their country to help you. Go ahead and try it. It'll be the shortest war in American history.
"Oh, wearisome condition of humanity,
Born under one law, to another bound;
Vainly begot, and yet forbidden vanity,
Created sick, commanded to be sound."
--Fulke Greville--

arch warmonger

#29
1. I doubt the left would ever be organized enough to keep cities from descending into massive looting and anarchy, or even stay alive longer than a few months. The military won't fight for that. If anything, YOU will be profiled as being the enemy.
2. LOTS of people will gladly betray their government, or at least refuse to do their jobs, if they think it's collapsing. The US isn't special in this respect. See: The collapse of the Soviet Union, Francisco Franco's forces fighting against the Spanish Republic.

Although I do agree that there won't be a civil war unless there's some kind of wider social breakdown or a terrible political crisis.