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Tariq Nasheed's "Buck Breaking" will be fucking hilarious
« on: April 30, 2021, 11:00:11 PM »


What it'll be about, from what I could gather from other "buck breaking" media Tariq has put out:

  • There was a practice among white southern slaveowners called "buck breaking" whereby the white men would rape black male slaves in order to humiliate them and reduce the respect other slaves had for them.
  • There was in fact a vast infrastructure dedicated to this, to the point of creating plantations in the Caribbeans specifically for this nefarious purpose.
  • LGBT is a conspiracy on the part of white people to emasculate black Americans (or as Tariq "Grifter" Nasheed would put it, foundational black Americans) and discourage reproduction. Because of this, LGBT could be considered a postmodern form of "buck breaking".

Of course there is 0 documentation for any of this outside of their weird little circle, but that never stopped them.

An older video in the same strain interviewing the same people.



What is it with black grievance writers and these kind of lurid, improbable fantasies? If you've ever read "Beloved" by Toni Morrison you'd realize that it's less of an award winning book as most people would see it and more of a piece of weirdo mommy porn. There's 0 documentary evidence for any of the crazy shit these blacks I mean FOUNDATIONAL BLACK AMERICANS write but again, that doesn't stop them from writing the craziest, filthiest shit and trying to pass it off as history.
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Offline drunkenshoe

Re: Tariq Nasheed's "Buck Breaking" will be fucking hilarious
« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2021, 07:17:47 AM »
Rape has been used as punishment and as a control medium in every human culture since it's existed. It's also a medium of torture.

Male rape is everywhere. It's a taboo. It's far less spoken than female and child rape. Doesn't matter in what context...historical or not. From prisons to military... And 'buck breaking' is not some woke concept. It's ancient. And it is about crushing 'masculinity' in a traditional sense because it is the traditional 'power'. Men get raped in wars for many reasons all the time. Soldiers are forced to rape each other as a form of torture when captured. It's about 'stripping' them from their manhood.

In some primtive tribes, a similar version of 'buck breaking' was done to teenage boys by old men, so they wouldn't try to gain power for themselves, divide the tribe.

During Bosnian Genocide, thousands of males were raped as torture. (Besides the male genocide.) The aim was crushing the society through individuals, from family unit because obviously those men couldn't have their families back. So this is the picture in the end of the 20th century.

But some film producer's bigotry on LGBTQ+ is the evidence against the idea of a systematic rape of male slaves over a hundred years ago and before during slavery? Slavery? Esp. in the Caribbean where slaves outnumbered white people? And your reasoning is...they have tortured them, killed them at will, lynched them on the spot to punish... they have done everything to crush these people to control them, but hey they haven't thought of systematic rape of males because there is no evidence for places to built to do this (?), and oh it is so filthy and crazy? 

Or is it just something like 'men don't get raped, bro' as it sounds equally moronic.
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Re: Tariq Nasheed's "Buck Breaking" will be fucking hilarious
« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2021, 08:06:21 AM »
Isn't Tariq the fuckstain that humiliated the hotel worker into a mental breakdown then posted the video online? If it is, the only video of his I am interested in watching is his trial and conviction for hate crimes.
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Re: Tariq Nasheed's "Buck Breaking" will be fucking hilarious
« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2021, 09:23:25 AM »
If evidence is provided, I would not be all that surprised, given colonial history. For every single act of unsolicited human kindness there seems to be two hateful acts often motivated by fear. Most of this hate was bragged about in journals and newsprint. This sort of thing would have not be recorded, however.

Re: Tariq Nasheed's "Buck Breaking" will be fucking hilarious
« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2021, 01:08:05 AM »
Here's a sampling of some of the deranged, unbelievable, pornographic shit from from Toni Morrison's "Beloved", basically the arch STUNNING AND BRAVE BLACK WOMAN NARRATIVE. This shit won a Pulitzer Prize.

Sethe, as the only female slave on the plantation, chooses a man to be her husband. Every other male slave takes to fucking animals on their wedding night.

Sethe wants a gravestone for her dead daughter, but is unable to pay, and so gets the gravestone maker's help by having sex with him while his son watches from the bushes.

Sethe tries to escape, is caught, and since she's lactating, the master's men punish her by sucking the milk out of her boobs.

SOUNDS REAL HISTORICALLY ACCURATE TO ME /s

The extreme nature of the events described plus the total lack of any real documentary evidence puts Buck Breaking in basically the same category as Beloved, at least for me.
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Re: Tariq Nasheed's "Buck Breaking" will be fucking hilarious
« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2021, 06:24:41 AM »
Why don't you take a good look at the plans for an actual slave ship (Brookes) and then think again about how unlikely intense acts of cruelty and bravery might be. Imagine that you could have been one of those human beings chained by ankles and wrists to the ribs of that ship, covered in shit and piss and that this cross-Atlantic journey is only the beginning of your new life.

Offline drunkenshoe

Re: Tariq Nasheed's "Buck Breaking" will be fucking hilarious
« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2021, 06:49:20 AM »
LOL He is talking about a fictional work that won the Pulitzer Prize for Fiction in 1988. It is inspired by real characters kind of work.

[Wiki- Beloved is a 1987 novel by the American writer Toni Morrison. Set after the American Civil War, it tells the story of a family of former slaves whose Cincinnati home is haunted by a malevolent spirit. Beloved is inspired by a true life incident involving Margaret Garner, an escaped slave from Kentucky who fled to the free state of Ohio in 1856, but was captured in accordance with the Fugitive Slave Act of 1850. When U.S. Marshals burst into the cabin where Garner and her husband had barricaded themselves, they found that she had killed her two-year-old daughter and was attempting to kill her other children to spare them from being returned to slavery.     ]

As far as I understand from a brief look around, the book is about psyhcology of being a slave, the family, mother-child, and father...their roles. How's the family unit is crushed... How people are stripped form any identity, basic roles and relations, future. So it's safe to say it's full of metaphors, specific kind of symbolism...etc. The haunted slave house. The stealing of the milk is a good one actually... By the way, this book was banned before and it has been challenged many times. So it seems that it is a certain, specific target about slavery in some place.

Forget about reality vs fiction, imagine reading a work of drama set in slavery period with realistic elements (considering everything physically possible to happen is a realistic element) and 'recieve' certain scenes as 'pornography' in that context. (Take that reception theory!)  But probably you haven't read anything other than some series of posts and/or blogs written by some right wingers who can't see beyond pornography the moment they face something remotely 'sexual', violent or not.

Have you ever read plain fiction -something out of the fantasy genres- in your life? You should have at school. Do you understand that all literary texts, including the ones defined as 'realist', have similar kind of fictional elements, qualities? That's fiction in the most primitive sense. Do you think Crime and Punishment is a fantasy story? Raskolnikov does not exist, but If I'd seen him I would have recognised him in a second. Many people would have. Les Miserable?

What's extreme, according to whom? In what period? What was the pornography in 1980s? What kind of voyeurism was the taste? Any mother and son flicks? Milf? BDSM? Gang bang? These would be shocking for people back then as just a click away porn titles, no? If we send those porn flicks to 1950s, do you think people would get they are fictional and those women and young men are not actually related, but just actors?

Realist literature is the most difficult genre to write in. You can't just create time and space, trigger points via some fantasy/sci-fi in a realistic work just like that and accept people to buy it because that's the contract; it belongs to the fantasy genre after all. You actually have to create them, keep the attention; make plain reality exciting. That's why, esp. in the last few decades, writers choose to produce to create fiction by real characters and events. It's the age of isssues. It just has to make sense, and it does. If it doesn't, it doesn't get accepted. The 'literary mindedness'  in our era has arrived to a very different level in the so called 'Post Truth' age.

SPOILERS ahead on bold titles.

Germinal is a work of fiction. A realist novel. In historical context, it is huge. I have no idea who got stuck in which mine, but it is 'real'. You know what people ask about it today? Is it realistic that a man's hands get cut because of icy-harsh wind, if he puts them in his pockets. Yeah... Then people wonder why literary criticism or any kind of meaning is dead.

HBO's Rome. Bruno Heller simply took famous historical events and real characters, then he successfully created a new fictional plot between them by weaving simple ordinary life and interpersonal relationships into it. He made it real via fiction. It's so successful, the audience fell in love with Pullo who is a serial rapist and murderer. He basically has no difference from any villain he interacts. Pullo's name exists somewhere in Caesar's journals. He is a real, fictional character. So is Lucious Verenus. We don't know anything about them. But it's probbaly the most realistic show made on Rome. (I'm putting 'I, Cladius' to somewhere else, considering Graves is completely different.)

Tudors is an abomination, but it was apllauded because it is designed to show something specific. It is made of anachronistic scenes designed to show how 'evil' men are. Forget about the average noble women -or men- in 15-16th century, even the learned men of that age cannot comprehed the idea of free life or free-personal choices because -besides religion- there is no point of understanding to create that sort of vision of the world. Popes, kings, cardinals and even generals without mistresses/bastards are seen as men with average or of little power. No male heir means civil war...People are not stupid. They have just lived in the past. And who is going to stop these men? Women do not discuss their oppressed status randomly around, esp with noble men, and make remarks on marriage and child birth. There is no other option. It's ridiculous to show that and mourn about it. Men have no choice either.  But it is 'real'. Who's better than Henry VIII for this subject? "Look women, you have it much better now."

Elizabeth I movies -while she is one of the two exceptions along with Catherine de Medici as far as female monarchs go in history- are about how she longs for love, husband and a child, lol. How ridiculous is that? She can't get married for obvious reasons -which she has always known- and probably even had various lovers because why wouldn't she? I doubt if she even tried to cover it much or anyone wold dare to expose. It's not 18th century. Yeah we don't have any evidence. But again, she is a woman after all.

Gladiator series are just ironic I guess. The sexually repressed, modern societies -where people actually have choices about sex, personal relationships, some sort of freedom, watch fantasy porn at wish- love the idea of some imaginary place where the blood and semen flows around like river because 'wow', see that's how the world was. LOL Men and women run around naked in streets, scantily clad noble women walk around in bazaars by themselves... A high ranking noble man orders a married house slave to be fucked by a gladiator in a house he visited for the first time as the night's pleasure... you know because he can't have that if he wants, oh it is so exciting for him, lol. The best part is, almost all slaves are natural philosophers who discuss their mortality, interpersonal relationships and slavery in relation to the meaning of life more eloquent than Cicero, but in a world that's so rare, they are put to fight for their lives and do basic chores. Because ancient Romans were stupid. It is OK because it is pagan. But see, it is 'real'.

I guess none of it as bogus as Braveheart though. If there wasn't for the myth of prima nocta which results in secret marriages, cutting a throat of a young innocent woman -she's somebody's 'legal' wife, that's important- most importantly the specific scene which the scarred faced scottish warrior crushes the landlords face with a mace saying something like "Came to take a husband's right"...that movie would flop. None of it is real. But it is 'real'. Because the fact that landlords commited all kinds of atrocities against their subjects make sense to people, if you show one of them fucking somebody's wife on their wedding day.

You are aware that the little girl in Shindler's List doesn't need to exist, right? Do you follow?

OK, I'm bored.

But those scenes from some book on slavery are 'deranged, unbelievable, pornographic' to you, and this is the topic you picked in the subject of slavery to post it to some forum you have joined less than a month ago? Because you are all about historical evidence, accuracy... and shit?

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Re: Tariq Nasheed's "Buck Breaking" will be fucking hilarious
« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2021, 04:13:46 PM »
All those words to say "It's okay to lie when it's historical fiction". And yes, I actually read that book in high school. If nothing of this kind was ever committed to the historical record, does that somehow give you a blank check to write  whatever bullshit you please? Does that mean that I'd be allowed to write "historical fiction" about Antifa breaking into my house and killing my dog?

As for those examples, the only one I've watched was Rome, but that one had obvious inaccuracies as well regarding famous figures, especially Atia, who according to the record was a model Roman wife but was reframed to  be a ginormous whore in the show who secures the loyalty of goons and political allies by fucking them in front of her son because ratings. Oh and the incest between Octavian and his sister that was never recorded as happening IRL, or the lesbian affair between Octavia and Servilia. I could go on.

But even that could be "excused" because that show was never meant to be a documentary, it was meant to be a lurid HBO drama where everybody fucks then kills everybody else. Beloved, on the other hand, is a PULITZER PRIZE WINNING NOVEL. There are higher standards for that. MAYBE
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Offline drunkenshoe

Re: Tariq Nasheed's "Buck Breaking" will be fucking hilarious
« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2021, 04:46:17 AM »
No, it is not like that. I don't think you get it. By the way, I'm trying to explain you the nature of the literary accumulation. This is not something humans ever had power over in history. There is no such power. It's equal to the theistic beliefs. This is a natural flow. Of course, in modern times as general knowledge progressed, historians, esp. cultural historians managed to come close to the reality. It's actually why anthropology has risen. Nobody takes a written account produced before modern state as seriously in a research sense. It's an academic principle. For good historians everybody is a liar.

It's interesting though. Whay did you pick Atia from that cast? Why do you presume any historical account on Atia, niece of Caesar, mother of Augustus would be honest? How do you know what kind of a man was Caesar was? We know certain events. They are all recorded by him, and Roman nobles of various kinds... They all had personal reasons to support or be against him.

If Vercingetorix had kept a journal about Gallic Wars, would people have looked at it the same way? Do you need any journals to see that?
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Re: Tariq Nasheed's "Buck Breaking" will be fucking hilarious
« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2021, 07:21:48 AM »
I think your idea of "truth" is very... malleable. Too malleable to be trusted.

This is a natural flow.

Yeah man everything's like waves maaaaaan. *takes a hit of his bong*

Offline drunkenshoe

Re: Tariq Nasheed's "Buck Breaking" will be fucking hilarious
« Reply #10 on: May 04, 2021, 07:49:38 AM »
I think your idea of "truth" is very... malleable. Too malleable to be trusted.

It's not my idea of 'truth'. I don't carry human history in my head. I'm not a god. Also, I'm not a unicorn or a vampire or a dragon for example. They don't exist. If you want some truth, go find a philosophy course.

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Yeah man everything's like waves maaaaaan. *takes a hit of his bong*

No. But at any usage of the word 'flow', most people like you would understand some kind of new age bullshit today... I mean 'flow' as in movement in every possible direction at the same time. For example, when I say 'it all flew over your head', I mean 'it went over your head' as in 'you are not equipped to understand it'. There is no flying involved around...in universe or anywhere, no head to fly over...get it? 
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Re: Tariq Nasheed's "Buck Breaking" will be fucking hilarious
« Reply #11 on: May 04, 2021, 09:56:18 AM »
It's not my idea of 'truth'. I don't carry human history in my head. I'm not a god. Also, I'm not a unicorn or a vampire or a dragon for example. They don't exist. If you want some truth, go find a philosophy course.

Whoa that is like sooooo deep. I guess nothing's true so I can like, make stuff up and call it history. So cool. So if I were to say that drunkenshoe raped a dog 5 years back that would be fine, because there's like no truth, man.

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No. But at any usage of the word 'flow', most people like you would understand some kind of new age bullshit today... I mean 'flow' as in movement in every possible direction at the same time. For example, when I say 'it all flew over your head', I mean 'it went over your head' as in 'you are not equipped to understand it'. There is no flying involved around...in universe or anywhere, no head to fly over...get it?

Let's all like flow TOGETHER
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Re: Tariq Nasheed's "Buck Breaking" will be fucking hilarious
« Reply #12 on: June 07, 2021, 05:52:46 PM »


THIS BUCK AINT GONNA BREAK HIMSELF
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