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Offline Baruch

Re: Another brexit thread
« Reply #30 on: December 23, 2020, 02:30:42 PM »
The EU army will invade GB presently.  The reality is, France and Germany have hated England for 1000 years, and have always enabled the Celtic resistance to join them in the fun.

President Teddy Roosevelt enabled the reconciliation between the British and French Empires by 1910.  King Edward was directly involved and pissed off the Foreign Office and Indian Office.  From that point, the monarchy has had no authority what so ever.  The result was, the British Empire declared war on the German Empire in 1914, and on the Third Reich in 1939.  Many Brits today wish they had stayed out of it and just let the Germans and French kill each other.
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Re: Another brexit thread
« Reply #31 on: December 24, 2020, 05:34:46 PM »
"'So Long, And Thanks For All The Fish' - UK Announces Historic Brexit Trade Deal" ... PM Johnson is a porpoise?  Has to past Parliament first.  Money promised for British fisheries screwed for the last 40 years.  EU gets a quota of British fish, not all of it.  Farage etc will see BoJo in a ditch over this!  There is third party arbitration over allocation, trade disputes, but BoJo promises that that won't have to be resorted too, too often ;-)  UK will be allowed to make 3rd party trade deals, and he promises that the UK/EU won't tariff the shit out of each other ;-)  He must never have met a French farmer ;-)

"1000s Of Trucks Still Stranded In UK As French COVID-Testing Rules Spark "Chaos"" ... next time President Macron will send Napoleon's corpse
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""Plague Island": Media Uses Xenophobic Anti-British Cartoon To Depict COVID" ... if you don't take it in the ass from Germany, you are evil!

There are people who want Parliament to turn down the deal, because they want no-deal, but they are unlikely to prevail.
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Early analysis shows that the agreement is a perpetual Brexit negotiation with a new layer of joint bureaucracy, a bit like how Norway is associated with the EU.  Also the UK will continue to give up 1/3 of their fish for the next 5.5 years, and maybe longer.  UK will not owe as much money into the common pot, so the EU is still in financial trouble, though the Covid finance bill is supposed to solve this.  Parliament would be wise to pocket-veto this and go with no-deal.  I don't expect, as all being part of the Fabian Socialists, that they will do this.





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Offline Baruch

Re: Another brexit thread
« Reply #32 on: December 28, 2020, 12:29:38 PM »
"EU Nations Unanimously Approve Brexit Deal As UK Warns Businesses To "Prepare For A Bumpy Ride"" ... replace EU tyranny with Doris tyranny?

"UK shouldn't take the 1,246-page agreement as the final word on EU market access" ... as 80% of UK economy is services ... that is what Germany mostly wants, to nuke The City (so Frankfurt and the corrupt Deutchebank becomes the world financial center).

"Votes on the text of the deal in Parliament and the EU Parliament, which will represent the final obstacles to the deal being officially ratified, are scheduled for Wednesday." ... goes into effect this Thursday night, if it gets those last two approvals.

Why Brexit?  "Don’t want to be governed by an elected government in Westminster but willing to be ruled by the French and Germans in an un-elected EU, strange!" ... yes, the whole UK in the EU period was an LSD trip
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Re: Another brexit thread
« Reply #33 on: December 30, 2020, 08:37:36 AM »
I've read that Britain has signed a free trade agreement with Turkey. Frankly, I find it odd.
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Offline Baruch

Re: Another brexit thread
« Reply #34 on: December 30, 2020, 12:21:55 PM »
I've read that Britain has signed a free trade agreement with Turkey. Frankly, I find it odd.

They did, yesterday ... "UK, Turkey reach post-Brexit free trade agreement".  UK has signed a number of free trade agreements outside of the EU, and expect many more.

"Brexit Trade Deal Easily Passes House Of Commons" ... "Brexit deal allows Britain to "have its cake and eat it," BoJo says." ... passing House of Lords and Queens Assent should be trivial.  Doris is just a legend with clay feet after all ;-)  Seems people prefer crooked politicians to crooked businessmen (see Trump).

The idea that the French won't take GB to court over the details of this agreement, about once a month, ignores what the French are really like.  But at least the French farmers won't be able any more to use the Chunnel to tractor over the Kent and drop rotten produce on the highways ;-))

"BoJo Deploys Military To Help Secure UK Schools Against COVID As Cases Surge" ... what will the SAS do, shoot the viruses?
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Re: Another brexit thread
« Reply #35 on: December 31, 2020, 06:41:19 PM »
Well we'll well
Brexit is a fact.
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Offline Baruch

Re: Another brexit thread
« Reply #36 on: December 31, 2020, 07:08:11 PM »
Well we'll well
Brexit is a fact.

Not really.  Even with House of Lords and Queen's assent ... the Ides of March have not yet arrived.  Also .. one more assent from the EU, the EU Parliament in maybe February.  Lots more time for EU/Macron to fuck with GB, and even after that, they can wrangle a new 100 Years War over the details and the committees that turn horses into camels ;-)  I think UK won't be really autonomous, that was never possible, they will just be more autonomous than they have been since 1992.  And that doesn't save the Brits from the malign intentions of their upper class, lower class and corrupt politicians ;-)  We are talking about GB, not the fabled court of King Arthur.

"UK Woman Arrested For Filming Inside Empty Hospital" ... Britain has centuries more corruption than the US, who do you think we learned it from?
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Re: Another brexit thread
« Reply #37 on: January 01, 2021, 04:45:47 AM »
Not really.  Even with House of Lords and Queen's assent ... the Ides of March have not yet arrived.  Also .. one more assent from the EU, the EU Parliament in maybe February.  Lots more time for EU/Macron to fuck with GB, and even after that, they can wrangle a new 100 Years War over the details and the committees that turn horses into camels ;-)  I think UK won't be really autonomous, that was never possible, they will just be more autonomous than they have been since 1992.  And that doesn't save the Brits from the malign intentions of their upper class, lower class and corrupt politicians ;-)  We are talking about GB, not the fabled court of King Arthur.

"UK Woman Arrested For Filming Inside Empty Hospital" ... Britain has centuries more corruption than the US, who do you think we learned it from?

Agreements from the lords or the queen aside: the brexit did go in effect starting today. Non-agreement on the deal would simply lead to no deal and strip the provisional state of affairs.

Things can very well still get more fucked up, I agree. But GB is officially out of the EU.
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Offline Baruch

Re: Another brexit thread
« Reply #38 on: January 01, 2021, 12:19:25 PM »
EU is Hotel California, you can check in, but never check out .. France and Germany can't allow it, or the Poles, Hungarians and Italians will make kielbasa, goulash and pasta out of the EU ;-)  Mind you, I don't hate the Europeans, but if I were British I would never have joined the Common Market, let alone the EU.  But this happened under US pressure, to bolster Germany as the front line against the Warsaw Pact.  Of course the Warsaw Pact and the Soviet Union folded, but momentum must be maintained (NATO forever).  The US has stabbed the UK in the back any chance we got, we remember who burned Washington DC.  I think if Churchill hadn't been half-American, we would have let the Nazis eat England alive.
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Re: Another brexit thread
« Reply #39 on: January 01, 2021, 01:51:03 PM »
EU is Hotel California, you can check in, but never check out .. France and Germany can't allow it, or the Poles...
Sure we can. It's just not smart too. And we are under no obligation to give the same benefits without due compensation. Brexit could have been a lot faster and easier if the Brits cared nothing for their own well-being and prosperity. Just gone for no deal. Would have been worst for all involved, but the EU would have let them had that been the resolve. Or the Brits could have let it, if it were the EU's resolve.
 But no one with a right functioning brain would want the worst case scenario.
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Offline Baruch

Re: Another brexit thread
« Reply #40 on: January 01, 2021, 03:14:59 PM »
Sure we can. It's just not smart too. And we are under no obligation to give the same benefits without due compensation. Brexit could have been a lot faster and easier if the Brits cared nothing for their own well-being and prosperity. Just gone for no deal. Would have been worst for all involved, but the EU would have let them had that been the resolve. Or the Brits could have let it, if it were the EU's resolve.
 But no one with a right functioning brain would want the worst case scenario.

Smart is being under the thumb of Germany?  If you are German that is true, sometimes.  I agree, no-deal would have been better (in a sense) but almost everything is politically impossible everywhere (politicians are there to stop things from happening aka status quo prejudice).  I don't see it tautologically true that whatever Germany wants, is even good for Germans, let alone anyone else.  And that applies to any political regime.  Why don't you just state (tongue in cheek) that you agree with France-Germany that the only good English are dead English? ;-)  Like in the US, we used to have signs that said "No Blacks or Irish allowed"?

Really, the EU economically less than China, and you all just as well cut to the chase, and enter slavery to China.  America is.
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Re: Another brexit thread
« Reply #41 on: January 02, 2021, 11:17:59 AM »
"Sacrifice 1 of 100 Remainers to their pagan gods and proceed without rancour." ... Brexiteer response ;-))
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