What do you know about the Bible? Take the test to find out.

Started by Jagella, October 18, 2020, 12:33:31 PM

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trdsf

Quote from: Jagella on October 19, 2020, 08:01:51 PM
You're in a forum called "Christianity," and you don't care about knowing the Bible? That's really strange. Are you sure you're not trolling? What you're saying is really dumb.
It doesn't take a letter-by-letter knowledge of the bible to be able to demonstrate its contradictions and inaccuracies.  I don't want to speak for Mike, but I'd warrant that he has better things to do than memorize the minutiæ of a book of fairy tales.  I know I do.  If you don't, that's your waste of time, not mine (or, I dare presume, Mike's).
"My faith in the Constitution is whole, it is complete, it is total, and I am not going to sit here and be an idle spectator to the diminution, the subversion, the destruction of the Constitution." -- Barbara Jordan

Mike Cl

Quote from: trdsf on October 19, 2020, 10:18:13 PM
It doesn't take a letter-by-letter knowledge of the bible to be able to demonstrate its contradictions and inaccuracies.  I don't want to speak for Mike, but I'd warrant that he has better things to do than memorize the minutiæ of a book of fairy tales.  I know I do.  If you don't, that's your waste of time, not mine (or, I dare presume, Mike's).
trdsf--dare away! :))
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?<br />Then he is not omnipotent,<br />Is he able but not willing?<br />Then whence cometh evil?<br />Is he neither able or willing?<br />Then why call him god?

Mike Cl

Sayings of Bugs:

“Ehhhhhh, shut up!”
“Ehhhh, what’s up doc?”
“What’s the hassle, Schmasel?”
“Gin rummy’s my game Sam”
“Heh, just like Gary Cooper huh?”
“Ahoooy there! … What’s up doc?”
“Well, anyone for Russian roulette?”
“So long Sammy!  See you in Miami!”
“I don’t ask questions, I just have fun”
‘Ata boy Sambo, give’m both barrels!”
“Ahhh, your brother blows bubblegum!”
“Ehhh, what is up, m’sieur le physician?”
“Poor little maroon, so trusting, so naive”
“Ehhh, so long screwy, see ya in St. Louie”
“I can do anything you can do, only better”
“Hey, just a minute you! Them’s fightin’ words!”
“Hey doc, what’s that song you’re playin’?  I like it”
“I suppose I’ll have to dispose of the little monster”
“Gee, I couldn’t do that to the little guy … hey Sam!”
“What! Sore again?  Ehhh, what a nasty disposition”
“Well … I’m willing to do anything my public demands”
“Oh no you don’t, the captain goes down with his ship!”
“Well, like the Romans always say … E pluribus uranium”
“Ain’t ya comin’ in Mac?  The girls have been askin’ for ya”
“Ehhh, what’s up Doc?  You with the sideshow around here?”
“I’ve heard of Hell’s Angels, but I never thought I’d see one”
“A few of my poor relations … they’re always ready for a touch”
“Stop steamin’ up my tail!  What are ya tryin’ to do … wrinkle it?”
“Eh, you wouldn’t be so tough if you weren’t wearin’ that uniform”
“Well, what do you know … there’s the little Wiener Schnitzel now”
“Come on, come on, step on it, we’ve still gotta make Rio De Janeirio”
“You know, sometimes me conscience bothers me … but not this time”
“It just goes to show ya that a one-eyed jack rabbit can beat a king”
“Hurry, hurry, get your free cigars, every cigar’s a vote for Bugs Bunny”
“Yes, heh heh heh heh, a rabbit, and just who do you think you are?”
“Oh you’re mistaken Mac, you see I’m not 777174, I’m only three and a half”
“Just a minute partna’, you can’t talk to me like that, them’s fightin’ words”
“Heh, heh, heh, heh, that Yosemite Sam, what a character, what a maroon”
“I assume it would not be too improper to borrow a cup of diced carrots, huh?”
“Ha! You have insult the great lover, the marquess of Queensbury Rules, take this!”
“Now just a minute Red, ain’t you got that wrong?  You mean, dead men tell no tales”
“Is he to be doomed to utter destruction? … Will he be rendered non compos mentis?”
“Now just a minute Von Schmamm the Hessian, this happens to be me native soil and I like it”
“Don’t beat me Masser!  Please don’t beat me Masser!  Don’t beat that tired old body, no don’t!”
“Later I found myself in the Sarara desert, where I met the stupidest character of them all, Yosemite Sam”

You chose--Bugs or Jesus....................
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?<br />Then he is not omnipotent,<br />Is he able but not willing?<br />Then whence cometh evil?<br />Is he neither able or willing?<br />Then why call him god?

Hydra009

Quote from: trdsf on October 19, 2020, 10:18:13 PMIt doesn't take a letter-by-letter knowledge of the bible to be able to demonstrate its contradictions and inaccuracies.  I don't want to speak for Mike, but I'd warrant that he has better things to do than memorize the minutiæ of a book of fairy tales.  I know I do.  If you don't, that's your waste of time, not mine (or, I dare presume, Mike's).
Bible knowledge is somewhat useful since a lot of fiction and philosophy and politics (even though it shouldn't) draws from it.  So a general familiarity is a good idea.  But yeah, I can't vouch for the utility of memorizing specific passages and assorted trivia.

trdsf

Quote from: Mike Cl on October 19, 2020, 10:58:52 PM
Sayings of Bugs:

(...)

“Well, like the Romans always say … E pluribus uranium”

(...)

You chose--Bugs or Jesus....................
'Bugs or Jesus?' sounds like an especially weird game show.

Bugs definitely starred in better cartoons.  And I'm going to have 'E Pluribus Uranium' mounted on the china cabinet housing my uranium glass collection.  :D
"My faith in the Constitution is whole, it is complete, it is total, and I am not going to sit here and be an idle spectator to the diminution, the subversion, the destruction of the Constitution." -- Barbara Jordan

Baruch

Quote from: Hydra009 on October 20, 2020, 02:11:13 AM
Bible knowledge is somewhat useful since a lot of fiction and philosophy and politics (even though it shouldn't) draws from it.  So a general familiarity is a good idea.  But yeah, I can't vouch for the utility of memorizing specific passages and assorted trivia.

If you are anywhere near Christians, Jews or Muslims, this familiarity is necessary.

@Mike Cl ... not a good effort on your part.  You won't have dumb people worshipping you millennia from now unless you do better ;-)
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

drunkenshoe

#36
This things are like watching trivia for me. I had to study Christian iconography in the univ which you do with a bible in lectures but that's it, don't remember anything from the texts. Just visually, some traditional scenes. Probably, I started to erase them after the finals 20 years ago back then. Oh gawd they are countless.
"science is not about building a body of known 'facts'. ıt is a method for asking awkward questions and subjecting them to a reality-check, thus avoiding the human tendency to believe whatever makes us feel good." - tp

Baruch

Quote from: drunkenshoe on October 20, 2020, 04:16:12 PM
This things like watching a trivia for me. I had to study Christian iconography in the univ which you do with a bible in lectures but that's it, don't remember anything from text. Just visually some traditional scenes. Probably I started to erase them after the finals 20 years ago back then. Oh gawd they are countless.

Well, your degree wasn't in art history then.  Your oblivion of many college courses is familiar to many.  I was never good with partial differential equations, and promptly forgot what little I knew after eeking out a C.

As a secular person who leans European, you only have to know socialist culture writings since 1945, right?  No need to know what a Mevlevi Sufi is.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Jagella

Quote from: trdsf on October 19, 2020, 10:18:13 PM
It doesn't take a letter-by-letter knowledge of the bible to be able to demonstrate its contradictions and inaccuracies.  I don't want to speak for Mike, but I'd warrant that he has better things to do than memorize the minutiæ of a book of fairy tales.  I know I do.  If you don't, that's your waste of time, not mine (or, I dare presume, Mike's).

Again, if you want to argue Christian beliefs, then it's very useful to know what those beliefs are and where they came from.

Sheesh--it looks like I underestimated the popularity of ignorance.

Jagella

Quote from: Hydra009 on October 19, 2020, 06:09:31 PM
To be fair, neither were the bible writers.  :P

And how do you know that the Bible writers were not "good with numbers, dates, and that kinda thing" without knowing what the Bible writers wrote? Trust me--actually knowing what you're talking about can be very useful.

Baruch

The Bible, even for a rabbi, is bottomless in complexity.  One can only have a superficial knowledge, even if one tries.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Blackleaf

Quote from: Jagella on October 20, 2020, 07:46:53 PM
Again, if you want to argue Christian beliefs, then it's very useful to know what those beliefs are and where they came from.

Sheesh--it looks like I underestimated the popularity of ignorance.

Whoa there. Let some of the air out in that ego of yours.
"Oh, wearisome condition of humanity,
Born under one law, to another bound;
Vainly begot, and yet forbidden vanity,
Created sick, commanded to be sound."
--Fulke Greville--

Hydra009

Quote from: Jagella on October 20, 2020, 07:52:25 PM
And how do you know that the Bible writers were not "good with numbers, dates, and that kinda thing" without knowing what the Bible writers wrote? Trust me--actually knowing what you're talking about can be very useful.
It's a tongue-and-cheek reference to various Bible contradictions, especially numerical contradictions and historical inaccuracies.

And just so you know, I don't have to have the whole thing memorized to know that there's something off just like I don't have to be a shipwright to have a pretty strong hunch that Noah's ark wouldn't have worked.

Two of each animal
Or seven?

Over 1 million soldiers
Or maybe 800 grand, same diff

Eight...or eighteen?

Baruch

There was a recreation of what an early big Sumerian boat would have been like ... which is where the story comes from, not from Israel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_fkpZSnz2I

People here agree with Plato, we need to follow Plato, and stop reading Homer Simpson ;-)  Doh!

Muslims also agree with people here, that poetry is evil, and only factual accounts can be allowed (which is their case happen to be the rather well authenticated Quran).
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Mike Cl

Quote from: Jagella on October 20, 2020, 07:52:25 PM
And how do you know that the Bible writers were not "good with numbers, dates, and that kinda thing" without knowing what the Bible writers wrote? Trust me--actually knowing what you're talking about can be very useful.
Answering trivia questions about a subject does NOT demonstrate mastery of any subject.  Do you wish to talk about who the writers of the bible was; the history of the bible; was jesus fictional or not; high criticism; low criticism--or anything else of substance.  I'm up for a discussion, if you are.
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?<br />Then he is not omnipotent,<br />Is he able but not willing?<br />Then whence cometh evil?<br />Is he neither able or willing?<br />Then why call him god?