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Mr.Obvious

Quote from: Mike Cl on October 15, 2020, 08:17:00 PM
Find the thread on this site--What Are You Listening To? Part II

And be sure to drop some sick metal beats, @bob nelson
"If we have to go down, we go down together!"
- Your mum, last night, requesting 69.

Atheist Mantis does not pray.

Baruch

Quote from: Mike Cl on October 16, 2020, 09:41:18 AM
One simple thing would make me a believer, and of the most ardent type.  Have the bible come from many different geographical places around Earth--and all dating from the same time frame.

There are no autographs (original first manuscripts) of any holy book.  Even the Gilgamesh tales in Ashurbanipal's library were excellent copies from 1000 years earlier (Hammurabi's library).  Autographs are usually accidentally preserved ordinary documents ... "Uzalu orders 3 bushels of barley from the Ur temple".  They had no reason to copy or save those in the first place.  The first case of preservation of copies of holy books were Babylonians keeping copies of Sumerian holy books, in the original language, because they were still reciting that (with Babylonian accents).  One exception, Sumerian or Babylonian kings would put a special tablet in the foundation of a new or rebuilt temple, so that they could brag to future generations.  Those are original and not ordinary documents, but of banal content anyway.  We did the same at my HS, we put stuff from 1973 in a time capsule under the flag stand.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

aitm

I don’t even ask for a hard miracle....from a real god. Just have a plane that is falling from the sky to gently float to the ground and everyone lives. Sheesh. You can create a universe but not float an airplane to the ground?
A humans desire to live is exceeded only by their willingness to die for another. Even god cannot equal this magnificent sacrifice. No god has the right to judge them.-first tenant of the Panotheust

PopeyesPappy

Quote from: aitm on October 16, 2020, 07:08:50 PM
I don’t even ask for a hard miracle....from a real god. Just have a plane that is falling from the sky to gently float to the ground and everyone lives. Sheesh. You can create a universe but not float an airplane to the ground?

They were all sinners anyway.
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Hydra009

Quote from: aitm on October 16, 2020, 07:08:50 PM
I don’t even ask for a hard miracle....from a real god. Just have a plane that is falling from the sky to gently float to the ground and everyone lives. Sheesh. You can create a universe but not float an airplane to the ground?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gimli_Glider

No fuel.  No deaths.  Can't explain that.

Ok, maybe you can.  It's just super complex and not at all supernatural.

Baruch

Quote from: Hydra009 on October 16, 2020, 09:10:06 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gimli_Glider

No fuel.  No deaths.  Can't explain that.

Ok, maybe you can.  It's just super complex and not at all supernatural.

New York flight lands in the Hudson after hitting a bird on takeoff, nobody had ever landed a airliner in the water successfully before or since.  A human miracle ;-) ... for which the pilot was criticized.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Blackleaf

Quote from: Hydra009 on October 16, 2020, 09:10:06 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gimli_Glider

No fuel.  No deaths.  Can't explain that.

Ok, maybe you can.  It's just super complex and not at all supernatural.

Just finished reading up on that. Jesus Christ. That must have been quite a trip for those involved, and the audience the plane narrowly avoided killing.
"Oh, wearisome condition of humanity,
Born under one law, to another bound;
Vainly begot, and yet forbidden vanity,
Created sick, commanded to be sound."
--Fulke Greville--

aitm

Quote from: Hydra009 on October 16, 2020, 09:10:06 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gimli_Glider

No fuel.  No deaths.  Can't explain that.

Ok, maybe you can.  It's just super complex and not at all supernatural.

Gliding, a aeronautical design, is a far cry from floating. 😁
A humans desire to live is exceeded only by their willingness to die for another. Even god cannot equal this magnificent sacrifice. No god has the right to judge them.-first tenant of the Panotheust

Baruch

Quote from: aitm on October 17, 2020, 06:55:18 AM
Gliding, a aeronautical design, is a far cry from floating. 😁

The Hudson River landing didn't float for long, but everyone got out alive ;-)
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.