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Generations come and go...
« on: September 28, 2020, 09:20:38 PM »
Last summer i swam in a little lake full of natural spring water.
It was freezing cold since its water comes from the melted ice from the mountains, or idk, it comes from under the Earth; and i was high on marijuana, this felt like more freezing to me.
The pool-like lake was near the Ephesus, once upon a time coastal Greek city-state.

Who knows who swam there before me, and before the 21nd century.
Going back to 2 milleniums ago, it is freezing and freaky-- odd, idk.

Offline drunkenshoe

Re: Generations come and go...
« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2020, 03:19:01 AM »
I remember swimming in a few caves, freezing. It's really freezing, lol. Cleopatra's Cove wasn't that bad though.

I get that feeling at a lot of places in our land...too ancient and too much character.
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Re: Generations come and go...
« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2020, 09:49:23 AM »
I have not swam in ancient waters.  But I got much the same feeling (minus the freezing) walking the land of the Anasazi Indians--ancient, awesome and puzzling.
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Offline Baruch

Re: Generations come and go...
« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2020, 10:02:52 AM »
Been to Ephesus ... so you have walked in my ancient footsteps (no, not that old).  Dad and I when I was a teen, we skinny dipped in a Colorado Rocky Mountain stream in summer, no reefers ... and been a soprano ever since ;-)
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Re: Generations come and go...
« Reply #4 on: September 29, 2020, 01:20:49 PM »
You guys also have Pacific Ocean. It is enough to shudder and feel smaller than an ant while gazing at it. That's what I felt when I saw it for the first time.
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Re: Generations come and go...
« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2020, 03:23:53 PM »
You guys also have Pacific Ocean. It is enough to shudder and feel smaller than an ant while gazing at it. That's what I felt when I saw it for the first time.

Big ocean.  Rip tides tried to kill me when I was 22 ;-(  Mediterranean outside of dirty ports, is quite idillic.
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Re: Generations come and go...
« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2020, 05:11:46 PM »
You guys also have Pacific Ocean. It is enough to shudder and feel smaller than an ant while gazing at it. That's what I felt when I saw it for the first time.
That is a cold swim.  Well, it is not a swim, really, but a wet--too many waves to really swim, but they do insure you get wet!  Oregon and Washington Pacific Ocean is cold, cold, cold.
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Then he is not omnipotent,
Is he able but not willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able or willing?
Then why call him god?

Offline Baruch

Re: Generations come and go...
« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2020, 06:20:38 PM »
That is a cold swim.  Well, it is not a swim, really, but a wet--too many waves to really swim, but they do insure you get wet!  Oregon and Washington Pacific Ocean is cold, cold, cold.

Graveyard of ships because of Winter storms ;-(
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Re: Generations come and go...
« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2020, 04:38:22 AM »
That is a cold swim.  Well, it is not a swim, really, but a wet--too many waves to really swim, but they do insure you get wet!  Oregon and Washington Pacific Ocean is cold, cold, cold.

I don't think I would dare to swim in any ocean, lol. Not just the cold, we have very cold parts in the Aegean too. Ocean is scary to me. Too big. There is nothing bigger than that on the planet, lol. Probably cultural though. People do swim in the Ocean.

Then there is Mediterranean...pffft salty bath water. But there are rocky shores where cold fresh water flows into the turqoise sea, now that's a treat under scorching sun.
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Re: Generations come and go...
« Reply #9 on: September 30, 2020, 09:40:57 AM »
I don't think I would dare to swim in any ocean, lol. Not just the cold, we have very cold parts in the Aegean too. Ocean is scary to me. Too big. There is nothing bigger than that on the planet, lol. Probably cultural though. People do swim in the Ocean.

Then there is Mediterranean...pffft salty bath water. But there are rocky shores where cold fresh water flows into the turqoise sea, now that's a treat under scorching sun.
I got into the Pacific only as a child.  And then we mainly played run from the waves or let them knock us down in waist deep water.  Never any further out than that.  The Atlantic was almost hot feeling when we swam there.  We also have the Great Salt Lake and it really does keep one afloat with no effort.  And it was so salty that we had to shower off back in the hotel room we stayed in.
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Then he is not omnipotent,
Is he able but not willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able or willing?
Then why call him god?

Offline Baruch

Re: Generations come and go...
« Reply #10 on: September 30, 2020, 10:31:35 AM »
I got into the Pacific only as a child.  And then we mainly played run from the waves or let them knock us down in waist deep water.  Never any further out than that.  The Atlantic was almost hot feeling when we swam there.  We also have the Great Salt Lake and it really does keep one afloat with no effort.  And it was so salty that we had to shower off back in the hotel room we stayed in.

Before I nearly drown at Mission Beach in San Diego, I nearly drown at Salton Sea.  Like the Great Salt Lake/Dead Sea.  Don't be cocky even in an inland sea/lake.
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Re: Generations come and go...
« Reply #11 on: September 30, 2020, 07:10:24 PM »
You guys also have Pacific Ocean. It is enough to shudder and feel smaller than an ant while gazing at it. That's what I felt when I saw it for the first time.
I've crossed the Pacific numerous times. The first was in 1970 and I lost my birthday. I've traveled the length and width in warships, traveling mostly at 12  knots (13.2 mph). It's big.
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Offline Baruch

Re: Generations come and go...
« Reply #12 on: September 30, 2020, 07:29:26 PM »
I've crossed the Pacific numerous times. The first was in 1970 and I lost my birthday. I've traveled the length and width in warships, traveling mostly at 12  knots (13.2 mph). It's big.

I thought you got a free date, when you crossed the date line ;-)
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ ła’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
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Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Offline drunkenshoe

Re: Generations come and go...
« Reply #13 on: October 01, 2020, 03:55:29 AM »
I got into the Pacific only as a child.  And then we mainly played run from the waves or let them knock us down in waist deep water.  Never any further out than that.  The Atlantic was almost hot feeling when we swam there.  We also have the Great Salt Lake and it really does keep one afloat with no effort.  And it was so salty that we had to shower off back in the hotel room we stayed in.

(I was thinking 'they have sea sized lakes' when writing that^, lol.) Mediterrenean is very salty too. And with that sun, it's hell for me, I have UV allergy. I have never swum in a lake. Not a proper one. In river and a couple of caves and that's near their openings, not inside.
"I believe you find life such a problem because you think there are good people and bad people. You're wrong, of course. There are, always and only, the bad people, but some of them are on opposite sides." Havelock Vetinari