Author Topic: The Frailty of Democracy  (Read 852 times)

Offline drunkenshoe

Re: The Frailty of Democracy
« Reply #15 on: October 02, 2020, 05:23:03 AM »
Because American Republicans, like all right-wing and religious groups and governments in the world are self-entitled and move with the understanding that it is their natural right. That's the fundamental nature of that thought, that frame of mind, it is not corruption when they do it. The very reason they can't administrate a barn full of horse shit.
"I believe you find life such a problem because you think there are good people and bad people. You're wrong, of course. There are, always and only, the bad people, but some of them are on opposite sides." Havelock Vetinari

Offline Baruch

Re: The Frailty of Democracy
« Reply #16 on: October 02, 2020, 11:29:29 AM »
Because American Republicans, like all right-wing and religious groups and governments in the world are self-entitled and move with the understanding that it is their natural right. That's the fundamental nature of that thought, that frame of mind, it is not corruption when they do it. The very reason they can't administrate a barn full of horse shit.

@Blackleaf - I miss Shiranu.  So you have to be our angry young man ;-)  Keep at it, eventually you will be the Establishment.  Democrats behaving like Republicans?  Are you unaware of Bill Clinton and Barak Obama?  Hillary loves her some Goldman-Sachs.  Wish Cavebear would post, he majored in political science.

Establishments are like that.  We have had Establishment for 5000 years, with occasional peasant revolts/iconoclasms that change the deck chairs, but human nature hasn't changed in 5000 years.  Of course New Soviet Man and Aryan Superman and now Eugenic Driven Evolution are there to attempt to make people stronger faster etc for a lot less than $6 million per person ;-)  In the US, I was figuring back, we have an iconoclasm movement every 50 years, dating back to 1770.  Next 1820, then 1870, then 1920, then 1970, then 2020.  This is intergenerational biology at work.

Marxists in their pseudo-science think that we are evolving in political-economy to an omega-point (later turned into cosmic theology by Teilhard DeChardin).  Once we get to true communism, the state will no longer be necessary.  Marxism was the product of a German Jew misunderstanding the French Revolution (Peasant Revolt).  The French, like the US, have continued to revolt.  Including in 1968 against DeGaulle and now with the Yellow Vests, hmm about 50 years.  Unless people start living for 100s of years, I see generation replacement as a permanent stop to ideas of cultural apotheosis.

If we did live that long, society would be "of the nursing home, for the nursing home, in the nursing home".  Each generation starts over, and having learned of and rejected their parent's/grandparent's they screw everything up.  My daughter follows the pattern as I did in my time.  Civilization is torn down by one generation, then we spend the next two generations rebuilding it.  This may well be healthy.  The fall of the Roman Empire was a necessary super cycle, like a major forest fire, to clear out the dead wood.  But the forest always grows back, as it should.
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Re: The Frailty of Democracy
« Reply #17 on: October 02, 2020, 12:59:41 PM »
Because American Republicans, like all right-wing and religious groups and governments in the world are self-entitled and move with the understanding that it is their natural right. That's the fundamental nature of that thought, that frame of mind, it is not corruption when they do it. The very reason they can't administrate a barn full of horse shit.

When you're doing the will of God, it can't be wrong. And that's what they believe: that they're doing the will of God. If they have to lie and cheat, then so be it, as long as abortion can be made illegal again.
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Born under one law, to another bound;
Vainly begot, and yet forbidden vanity,
Created sick, commanded to be sound."
--Fulke Greville

Offline Baruch

Re: The Frailty of Democracy
« Reply #18 on: October 02, 2020, 01:10:32 PM »
When you're doing the will of God, it can't be wrong. And that's what they believe: that they're doing the will of God. If they have to lie and cheat, then so be it, as long as abortion can be made illegal again.

When you are doing the will of Karl Marx theory, winning is inevitable, but only Chinese communists have the Mandate of Heaven.

I don't wish for abortion to be made illegal.  I want liberalism to be made illegal.  The rest will fall into place.
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Offline drunkenshoe

Re: The Frailty of Democracy
« Reply #19 on: October 02, 2020, 01:19:48 PM »
@Blackleaf - I miss Shiranu.  So you have to be our angry young man ;-) 

You think Shiranu is an example of an angry American man?!

Marxist are not scientists. If you mean 'Marxist scientists' that is something else, and in theory it means the movements in resistance of any religion; in short any bullshit that's why you have any kind of modern medicine. Social sciences are not sciences, they're historical disciplines. There is your hint. 
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Offline Baruch

Re: The Frailty of Democracy
« Reply #20 on: October 02, 2020, 03:37:54 PM »
You think Shiranu is an example of an angry American man?!

Marxist are not scientists. If you mean 'Marxist scientists' that is something else, and in theory it means the movements in resistance of any religion; in short any bullshit that's why you have any kind of modern medicine. Social sciences are not sciences, they're historical disciplines. There is your hint.

Marxism was billed as a science, for over 100 years.  If neo-Marxism isn't even a science, it is just BS.  Fabian Socialism is so gradual, it isn't worth bothering with.  If you want change, kill some millions or even some billions, and you can have your free lunch utopia (based on fake physics).
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Re: The Frailty of Democracy
« Reply #21 on: October 03, 2020, 02:11:52 PM »
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Also, if you like philosophy, I highly recommend subscribing to this guy.
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Born under one law, to another bound;
Vainly begot, and yet forbidden vanity,
Created sick, commanded to be sound."
--Fulke Greville

Offline fencerider

Re: The Frailty of Democracy
« Reply #22 on: October 07, 2020, 09:39:54 PM »
I see us on a brink and I think collapse is imminent.  This is not about voting Democrat or Republican.  Those are not solutions.  Maybe the problem is the Constitution, or maybe it's people.  The system is fucked, and it's not healthy to hide from that.

The system is royally screwed. It's been on a downward spiral since the 80's. I don't know if collapse is imminent or not. Methinks Civil War is more imminent than collapse. And we must be ready. Not just ready to start loading guns, but to know what exactly we will be fighting for. The people (defined by the English language as the working class) against the wealthy and their lackeys.

The Constitution does have many flaws in it; as has been discovered by Trump, and republicans; it does need to be changed. Since this is the 21st year of me studying the Constitution, I started entertaining myself a couple months ago by rewriting the Constitution without the flaws thats the parasites have been taking advantage of. Nothing like a raging bull (Orange Chumpanzee) to show you where the fence is weak.
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Offline Baruch

Re: The Frailty of Democracy
« Reply #23 on: October 10, 2020, 09:40:24 AM »
Liberal vs Conservative string got moved to the Enter The Darkness area.  Aww.  Just listen to your Radio Free Pravda while you still can ;-)

So just political science on this thread ...

"Nearly 50,000 Voters Receive Wrong Ballots In Ohio" ... oops, shambolic again

"Death To Free Speech In The Netherlands - Again" ... EU does what EU is

Tory dictatorship for UK, Dem dictatorship for the US.  This is the new normal.
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Re: The Frailty of Democracy
« Reply #24 on: October 11, 2020, 07:17:43 AM »
Re: The Frailty of Democracy

The most important characteristic of a democracy is the ability to delete a bad government. This is the price we pay for having a mediocre government most of the time. Each individual in a democracy will rarely get what they want. Tough shit, the alternatives suck more. Perhaps a true multiparty democracy would help bridge the valley between extremes, but I don't know how to get there.

Offline Baruch

Re: The Frailty of Democracy
« Reply #25 on: October 11, 2020, 10:23:36 AM »
Re: The Frailty of Democracy

The most important characteristic of a democracy is the ability to delete a bad government. This is the price we pay for having a mediocre government most of the time. Each individual in a democracy will rarely get what they want. Tough shit, the alternatives suck more. Perhaps a true multiparty democracy would help bridge the valley between extremes, but I don't know how to get there.

Military coup?  As in the Constitutional Convention of 1787, a bloodless coup led by traitors Benjamin Franklin (noted serial killer and traitor) and George Washington (noted whisky brewer and traitor)?

The current Constitution was designed for ... #1 avoid British Parliament foolishness (as revealed by the American Revolution), #2 avoid Italian Parliament foolishness (as revealed after WWII).  The US was designed to be a 4 million people mostly agricultural country, with propertied White men running everything (because those were the only people who had a college education in law (not ministry or medicine)).  Gentlemen like Jefferson.

True democracy was also stopped by that Constitution, because ... #3 avoid Athenian assembly foolishness (as revealed by ancient history).  Government isn't Walmart, where you go to shop, find some government program you like, and charge it.

This is why some people are ethno-nats.  Everyone should be the same race, same language, same social class .. to make up a polity.  Bantustans like in Boer S Africa.  Then democracy won't result in chaos, because natural group think.  I think ethno-nats are pessimists.  What is needed is dictatorship, not democracy.  Bang heads together and shoot the outliers.
« Last Edit: October 11, 2020, 10:26:16 AM by Baruch »
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Re: The Frailty of Democracy
« Reply #26 on: October 11, 2020, 10:47:32 AM »
LOL. I'll go with the market sentiment. We have a priced-in Biden win and at least a generous Q1 fiscal stimulus money printing package (some disappointment and volitivity still possible because it's way late). A extraordinarily poor executive branch will be replaced. Trump and his fake Christian side-kick will go down as shit-stains in the history books.

Offline Baruch

Re: The Frailty of Democracy
« Reply #27 on: October 11, 2020, 11:13:28 AM »
LOL. I'll go with the market sentiment. We have a priced-in Biden win and at least a generous Q1 fiscal stimulus money printing package (some disappointment and volitivity still possible because it's way late). A extraordinarily poor executive branch will be replaced. Trump and his fake Christian side-kick will go down as shit-stains in the history books.

Maybe.  Predictors end up eating glass shards from their broken crystal balls ;-(  I hear in GB you can bet on anything.  Can you actually bet on the Presidential race in Las Vegas?

"Pelosi’s 25th Amendment Panel moves U.S. one step closer to Politburo Communism" ... utopia soon, everyone in US to become Black gang banger. Wakanda!

"Where's the companion bill that protects the American people from 80 year old, criminally insane and delusional Speakers of the House?" .. rule of law and Constitution are dead.  One Mafia gang against another Mafia gang.  Not politics.

"ANTIFA RIOTERS AMBUSHED AND MASS ARRESTED AFTER BLM RATTED THEM OUT FOR BEING WHITE AND USING BLM" .. civil war within Democrat Blackshirts?  Or are there moles in their ranks?
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Offline Baruch

Re: The Frailty of Democracy
« Reply #28 on: October 19, 2020, 09:25:34 PM »
“Power is in tearing human minds to pieces and putting them together again in new shapes of your own choosing.”  - George Orwell

Some Dems calling for the de-Nazification of the US.  How about lets kill all the communist traitors first?
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Offline Baruch

Re: The Frailty of Democracy
« Reply #29 on: October 20, 2020, 11:33:38 AM »
“In the first of what will no doubt be a series of blockbuster voting rights rulings or opinions in this 2020 electoral season, the U.S. Supreme Court let stand a Pennsylvania Supreme Court ruling to count mail-in ballots received within three days of November 3rd’s Election Day, even if they lack a legible postmark.”  - a 4-4 ruling but not a bad decision anyway, Roberts again was the swing vote

"DoJ Finally Files Sweeping Antitrust Lawsuit Against Google" .. shadow boxing with the CIA

"Google Whistleblower Tells Veritas Search Engine Is "Skewing Results" To Benefit Democrats" ... soon to be Arkancided

"Crime Pays: Goldman Strikes $2BN Deal With DoJ To Avoid All Charges Tied To 1MDB" .. 1MDB was a giant financial scandal with Malaysia.  Goldman will take their cost off of their taxes as a cost of business.

"UK Officer In Charge Of Submarine's Nukes Boarded "Staggering Drunk" While Clutching BBQ Chicken" ... not enough rum rations?

""New government of Sudan, which is making great progress, agreed to pay $335 MILLION to U.S. terror victims and families."" ... so much more successful than the State Department under Hillary
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