Moral hypocrisy of left wingers in USA "Karen meme"

Started by Kibla92, August 29, 2020, 03:13:11 PM

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Kibla92

Quote from: Baruch on August 30, 2020, 03:28:56 PM
MikeCL has KKK hiding under his bed, from his childhood there.

Biden = Kerensky
Soros = Lenin
You inspired me to make a thread on KKK and origins of it. Just a sec

Baruch

Quote from: Kibla92 on August 30, 2020, 03:29:57 PM
You inspired me to make a thread on KKK and origins of it. Just a sec

Grandfather/Greatgrandfather were KKK, bwahah.  Nathan Bedford Forest needs to ride again with the Proud Boys.
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Mike Cl

Yeah, Shoe, it's funny (strange and sad and stupid) the way the rebubs have created trigger words.  Communism is one such.  Combine it with anything and that makes that thing baaaad!  Socialist is now becoming another.  Liberal has been one for awhile.  And the rebub base is just stupid enough to be influenced by those 'sound bites', even if they make no sense.

Trump uses this:  A big lie (German: große Lüge) is a propaganda technique. The expression was coined by Adolf Hitler, when he dictated his 1925 book Mein Kampf, about the use of a lie so "colossal" that no one would believe that someone "could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously".   And he has added to it in that he tells little lies as well. 
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Baruch

Left is secular Crusaders on their way to the Holy Land.  No wonder they find common cause with Muslim Jihadis.
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Kibla92

Quote from: Mike Cl on August 30, 2020, 03:44:05 PM
Yeah, Shoe, it's funny (strange and sad and stupid) the way the rebubs have created trigger words.  Communism is one such.  Combine it with anything and that makes that thing baaaad!  Socialist is now becoming another.  Liberal has been one for awhile.  And the rebub base is just stupid enough to be influenced by those 'sound bites', even if they make no sense.

Trump uses this:  A big lie (German: große Lüge) is a propaganda technique. The expression was coined by Adolf Hitler, when he dictated his 1925 book Mein Kampf, about the use of a lie so "colossal" that no one would believe that someone "could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously".   And he has added to it in that he tells little lies as well.

Here is what i find funny.

Despite how deceitful communism is. 100 million dead (a beautiful song made by All that Remains - Wasteland has a anti communist message). Yet its never come accross as bad by sympathizers. I never have seen a nazi parti in modern time saying "Oh Hitler was a cool guy" but if you are a communist.. oh by all means make groups for it.
Nazism was defeated.. and it killed 6 million people "probably more but Jews hog the holocaust" and somehow anything that puts question mark to the legitimacy of deceit of left is ultimately a nazi. Just seems somehow that being a nazi is worse (and it is) but communism is arguably worse since it murders people in the name of deceit.

Mike Cl

Quote from: Kibla92 on August 30, 2020, 04:55:03 PM
Here is what i find funny.

Despite how deceitful communism is. 100 million dead (a beautiful song made by All that Remains - Wasteland has a anti communist message). Yet its never come accross as bad by sympathizers. I never have seen a nazi parti in modern time saying "Oh Hitler was a cool guy" but if you are a communist.. oh by all means make groups for it.
Nazism was defeated.. and it killed 6 million people "probably more but Jews hog the holocaust" and somehow anything that puts question mark to the legitimacy of deceit of left is ultimately a nazi. Just seems somehow that being a nazi is worse (and it is) but communism is arguably worse since it murders people in the name of deceit.
What is a 'communist'?
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Cassia

I have been friends with a very nice republican Christian couple for years. They are both obese with high blood pressure, slightly diabetic, minimal education, have no health insurance, live in a white suburb but drink a lot of wine because they are in total debt with no retirement plan, don't wear masks and yet their biggest fear is black and brown people who are fixing to maraud their neighborhood and communists. Just because they are misinformed and not very book smart that doesn't mean I hate them. Like I said they are old friends and are very nice people. Just very unaware of what they should really care about.

Baruch

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Quote from: Kibla92 on August 30, 2020, 04:55:03 PM
Here is what i find funny.

Despite how deceitful communism is. 100 million dead (a beautiful song made by All that Remains - Wasteland has a anti communist message). Yet its never come accross as bad by sympathizers. I never have seen a nazi parti in modern time saying "Oh Hitler was a cool guy" but if you are a communist.. oh by all means make groups for it.
Nazism was defeated.. and it killed 6 million people "probably more but Jews hog the holocaust" and somehow anything that puts question mark to the legitimacy of deceit of left is ultimately a nazi. Just seems somehow that being a nazi is worse (and it is) but communism is arguably worse since it murders people in the name of deceit.

It was complicated at the time and later obfuscated to protect the usual suspects.  In 1939-1941 Stalin was the ally of Hitler.  They had competing versions of Socialism.  Keep your friends close (Mussolini) and your enemies closer (Stalin).  Earlier they had been opponents in the Spanish Civil War (with anarchists as jokers).  The Hitler-allied Franco beat out both the anarchists (who were everyone's enemy) and the Socialists (supported by Stalin).  Americans who intervened in Spain supported the Socialist side (Abraham Lincoln Brigade).  By the time the Phony War ended, the R-French supported Hitler and the L-French supported Stalin, who were allies.  So France had no skin in that fight, except for DeGaulle.  The R-French were smashed, and the L-French happily surrendered, and joined Hitler as Vichy.  Franco was smart and stayed out of the rest of the war.  Mussolini stabbed the French in the back, to get a little Alpine real estate and glory.

After France got invaded by the British Empire and the US (with Free French under DeGaulle as opera buffa) ... everyone forgot that the French Resistance only went into action after Hitler invaded the Soviet Union, and Stalin activated them (they were L-French).  DeGaulle was the R-French but anti-Vichy.  In other countries, because of Hitler's betrayal of Stalin, everyone forgot where the Communist party loyalty lay (including original AntiFa in Germany) because Stalin was now an ally.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2zrqzvtWio

So except for Hitler's paranoia, Stalin would have come out just as bad-guy image as Hitler, and Communists and Fascists would have no friends today.  Of course the good times with Stalin/Mao/Kim/Ho all ended quickly after the war, as Gen Patton predicted.  Like many anti-English anti-Stalin Americans, he would have sided with Hitler against Stalin, but the two dictators acted random.  People who think that Hitler was right-wing ... are mouthing the opinion of Stalin.  If Hitler was right-wing, he would have restored the Kaiser and stepped down.
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Blackleaf

Quote from: Kibla92 on August 30, 2020, 04:55:03 PM...and somehow anything that puts question mark to the legitimacy of deceit of left is ultimately a nazi.

Amazing. The Alt-Right accuse the Left of being easily offended and of language policing, and then they whine about being called names. Does the Alt-Right have ANYTHING to offer besides projection?

When is the last time someone on the Left has called you a Nazi?
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drunkenshoe

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I swear, it's fascinating. I mean, I'm using a second language I have never lived with, and I get that my posts sound weird and grammatically off at times but in the end, English is alien to me.

But these native English speaking people write-talk and esp. use certain words as if they have learned them from a verbal communication only. Exactly the same with the ones here. I experience this in two different languages. It's like we're back in sixteenth-seventeenth centuries. Not just him. But as he is the closest example now, look at the way he is using the word 'deceit'.

"Deceit of left." It's like somebody has been reading from a 'chapbook' or an anonymous dialogue written down to a few pages of parchment regularly -as it was the fashion then- and they're talking through this with some bits and pieces. (You know those? Sold by peddlers? Little booklets? The same illustrations were recycled and often they had no relation to the text, just got put there. short Stories, parables... Often the same male portrait became everyone...villains, heroes...lol) But in this modern one it is like a floating fairy tale telling... 'There was this dark king who lived in the castle right down the blue mountains and he wanted to rule all the lands by magic and deceit. The people of the river saw his lies and ask the red king to stand against the dark king. The red king told the villagers to burn all the hay and wait for him at the dawn someday after the harvest so he will save them and make things great again.'

I was going to say it is like Menocchio came to life, he is sitting by the fire and reading to the illiterate farmers and these people are like those farmers, getting bits and pieces from his readings about some 'things' they have never heard before and then try to convey them to others...but obviously that's a bad analogy because Menocchio was a hero of his time,lol. But the primitive literal mindedness of that time is here somehow. I mean the words are used in a way that makes you feel like it is coming from somewhere several hundred years ago, from a time they didn't exist,lol.

You guys know better than me about how Protestants and Catholics have fought and argued about the allegorical and literal meanings of 'the bread is my flesh, wine is my blood' ritual. Well, they've both read this -pen holders of course- ritual with different kinds of literal mindedness and in a time allegory was condemned and people started to question bible harshly -not serving to realism yet as we know, no- both sides have debated that how the allegorical and/or literal traits become the faith expressed in reality as in 'god's truth'.

I swear, what's happening right now very much resembles to that. At some point, in an extreme dysutopian scenario, these people will claim the American Civil War has never happened and was made up by the Dark King and his men. Exactly like when people have done with wars, historical figures; the existance of Ancient Rome, few hundred years ago. LOLOL

Somebody has to write something solid about this. This being... the literal mindedness of the 21st century.

"science is not about building a body of known 'facts'. ıt is a method for asking awkward questions and subjecting them to a reality-check, thus avoiding the human tendency to believe whatever makes us feel good." - tp

SGOS

Quote from: Blackleaf on August 31, 2020, 02:01:23 AM
Does the Alt-Right have ANYTHING to offer besides projection?
They do have a tendency to overlook their own sins, and project them on others, and even manage to exaggerate those sins wildly.  It often makes me wonder what is really going on in their hearts.

Baruch

Quote from: SGOS on August 31, 2020, 08:32:39 AM
They do have a tendency to overlook their own sins, and project them on others, and even manage to exaggerate those sins wildly.  It often makes me wonder what is really going on in their hearts.

The alt-Right needs to kill the alt-Left and vice versa.  Burn it all down.  I will be happy as a Centrist, to sell the popcorn.  Yes, the alt-Left has something in their hearts, fake compassion, fake virtue ... mostly drugs and criminality.  Not a good look if you are competing against the alt-Right.
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aitm

Quote from: Kibla92 on August 30, 2020, 04:55:03 PM
Here is what i find funny.

Despite how deceitful communism is. 100 million dead (a beautiful song made by All that Remains - Wasteland has a anti communist message). Yet its never come accross as bad by sympathizers. I never have seen a nazi parti in modern time saying "Oh Hitler was a cool guy" but if you are a communist.. oh by all means make groups for it.
Nazism was defeated.. and it killed 6 million people "probably more but Jews hog the holocaust" and somehow anything that puts question mark to the legitimacy of deceit of left is ultimately a nazi. Just seems somehow that being a nazi is worse (and it is) but communism is arguably worse since it murders people in the name of deceit.
Jews hog the holocaust? Hmmm.
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PickelledEggs

I love how no matter what the subject is, Baruch hard-tangents in to "marxism this and marxism that! you better watch out for marxism!"

This is how I know that for the most part, he needs to be not taken seriously.