Author Topic: Political Correctness  (Read 634 times)

Offline aitm

Re: Political Correctness
« Reply #15 on: August 23, 2020, 09:16:58 PM »
You are born as you. Thats the reality of it. Some like shooters video games, some dont. Thats the answer

If you refer to transsexualism, i just label that stupid roleplaying. Because all you do is taking your fantasy into reality and ruining functional organs for sake of it. As a kid i wanted to be Simba from Lion King.. that doesnt mean i should actually remove what aint broken. Since transsexualism i just consider real life roleplaying that people take too far.

But if you are above 18, then its your life. But it should be criminal for people doing it to kids. Thats child abuse.
Mindless of the old wise saying about not opening your mouth thus proving you're an idiot, you jump headlong into a pile of stupid. Another wise saying is " don't argue with an idiot, an observer may not be able to tell the difference". Suffice it to say you should look for a forum where ignorance is preferred, you will find plenty of idiots there who agree with stupid shit.
A humans desire to live is exceeded only by their willingness to die for another. Even god cannot equal this magnificent sacrifice. No god has the right to judge them.-first tenant of the Panotheust

Offline Baruch

Re: Political Correctness
« Reply #16 on: August 23, 2020, 10:19:53 PM »
After such insightful posts, it is a reverse miracle that all atheists didn't convert immediately.

Convert to what?  He is pretty unclear, probably because he is young.
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Offline Baruch

Re: Political Correctness
« Reply #17 on: August 23, 2020, 10:21:45 PM »
I don't think he's a troll. He may be religious, but I'm not going to jump to that conclusion either. I think he's just another one of those Alt-Righter types, who thinks blue-haired college kids are the worst threat in the modern world.

Lenin was one of those blue-haired kids.  His brother was an attempted assassin.
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Offline trdsf

Re: Political Correctness
« Reply #18 on: August 24, 2020, 03:07:56 AM »
Well, whatever he on the religious and political spectra, he's just another whackjob who's way too obsessed with what other people are doing with their various bits, as if it's any of his business to begin with.

Ah, and there's the hollow *plonk* noise of someone being dropped into my twitfilter... haven't heard that in a while.
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Offline drunkenshoe

Re: Political Correctness
« Reply #19 on: August 24, 2020, 04:12:27 AM »
Kibla92 First of all, everything you've posted in this forum in the last couple of days has been posted hundreds of times before in the last two decades. Not just by religious people, by people from every kind of groups around the world. So you are not giving people something new or different or even some sort of an argument to discuss. You're expressing a sort of world vision that is seen in people who are raised and live in a closed or half closed community, maybe even a minority in limited interaction with the main culture. Which is OK. This could be political, religious, social...hell it could be a friend circle.

The point is, when people live like that they perceive the world from a certain filter. Think about standard Hollywood movies that have been made since its invention. You know them, right? Same kind of people, same kind of looks, same kind of colours, jobs, social dynamics, forms of behaviours, houses, cars... Of course, it is entertainment, show business so people want to see something they are not and they don't have. It's fantasy after all. But it is not that simple. Because it's always been promoted as the ideal standard, norms to reach a certain class that only mattered, again served for the needs and dreams of a certain class and people.

Now, the right wing politics and religious groups' world-life visions are very similar to those Hollywood movies. It's an imposed set of norms which has nothing to do with real life, real people. Because that's how you write or say something like 'I'm anti-gay'. It looks like a proper sentence that conveys a meaning but it has no meaning.

Anyway, relatively a short time ago, a certain kind of knowledge has started to become avilable to most people which has always been a very slow process in human history without the mass media technologies we had in this period of time. Not to mention that an event like 9/11 created many other fields and different aspects, changed the meaning of concepts, belief and religion. (I don't care who did it or made it happen.)

This reception of knowledge, information has created an unprecedented scale of mess. In a very ironic way, the dreams of 19th-early 20th century philosophers have actually come true and a huge amount of people realised that -consciously or unconsciously- religion is bullshit. Belief systems are bullshit. This happened so silent and hard in fact, religions have been trying to upgrade themselves to get along with this. Not the scripture obviously, but then that's why you pointed out hadiths instead of direct excerpts from the book. Because they're open to interpretation and they're the social politics of that religion.

Sure, the movements - for example like New Atheism- were started by the same class I wrote above; right wing, white, heterosexual male, educated, middle or high class... then it got fragmented into some other groups; gender, minority and race based groups and 'collapsed'. And all those 'subgroups' are being demonised and blamed for a 'downfall' by a group of people of a specific identity since.

But contrary to the common belief, this fragmentation and the eventual 'collapse' actually happened BEACUSE THE MOVEMENT(S) WORKED. Not because it failed. It's just the figures -who lead those main movements; who holds the mic- and the group of people who share their profile don't get the fact that their own identity and its politics can't stay in that status while pushing every kind of people from every kind of identity profile to see the world in a new light, helping them to realise everything they have defined themselves -consciously or unconsciously- is a result of a rotten, made up order which belongs to an old, obsolete world. Can you follow this? Naturally, the first thing they've asked was "What about me?". That's how human works. and I don't mean this as just selfishness or egoism which are natural human traits. They've started new movements, groups, get loud and push and push. Get in to everything. Thank fuck. Good or bad. Stupid or insane. It doesn't matter, this is how the giant turtle moves.

And of course, naturally they also created their polar opposites and people have shifted far opposite in the spectrum. Religious or atheist, all right wing brain teams are perfectly aware of this dynamic. Actually, I'll go further and claim that they have seen the picture before and better than the left. They just don't give a damn about making policies for people; including everyone into everything because it is against their benefit and profit. It's against the nature and the way these ideologies work. You can't do that and be right wing (or impose your belief system). That's why right wing policies cannot administrate societies, let alone countries in the 21st century. There are so many new terms invented for the system they desire, but it is just fucking oligarchy.

So this is why identity politics and civil rights -which were always been a part of every politics in every culture- have gained an incredible momentum.

Why is it everywhere? Why it is pushed into everything? Because it has always been about everything and in everywhere. This, as a knowledge has been realised more than a hundred years ago, again by first class people; white het males; philosophers. It's just become available to common people in the simplest sense. And everybody is seeing it from their own perspective. Now, today everything is 'personal' because every gadget you use is programmed to show you whatever you like or want to be/have. Anything or anyone out of it, can be damned.

What's happening now as a whole -the kinesis if you will- is not something original or even new. It's just our species' epic scale  narcissism and six year old sense of urgency makes us feel this way. It has happened countless of times in different scales through out history in different forms.

« Last Edit: August 24, 2020, 04:20:58 AM by drunkenshoe »
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Offline Baruch

Re: Political Correctness
« Reply #20 on: August 24, 2020, 10:04:39 AM »
@drunkenshoe … good essay, but this guy probably is too young to know much of your adult vocabulary.  Give him another 10-20 years ;-)
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ ła’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
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Don't do that.

Re: Political Correctness
« Reply #21 on: August 24, 2020, 01:40:44 PM »
People are demanding equal treatment under the law, and this asshole dismisses it as a "hobby." Gee, I wonder what sexuality he has. It's easy to be dismissive of others' problems when you never have to worry about having those problems yourself.
"Oh, wearisome condition of humanity,
Born under one law, to another bound;
Vainly begot, and yet forbidden vanity,
Created sick, commanded to be sound."
--Fulke Greville

Offline Baruch

Re: Political Correctness
« Reply #22 on: August 24, 2020, 08:33:04 PM »
People are demanding equal treatment under the law, and this asshole dismisses it as a "hobby." Gee, I wonder what sexuality he has. It's easy to be dismissive of others' problems when you never have to worry about having those problems yourself.

I reject the law .. I am a Democrat ;-)
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Offline Baruch

Re: Political Correctness
« Reply #23 on: September 01, 2020, 06:07:16 AM »


Burn the media
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Offline Baruch

Re: Political Correctness
« Reply #24 on: September 03, 2020, 09:57:19 PM »
"Armstrong: The NY Times Supported Stalin & Communism As The Way To The Future" .. Pulitzer Prize winning commie, Walter Duranty.
« Last Edit: September 03, 2020, 10:00:35 PM by Baruch »
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Re: Political Correctness
« Reply #25 on: September 04, 2020, 02:30:35 AM »
Black lives matter, feminism is good, religion is bullshit, and if you disagree with me on any of these points you are a fucking moron.

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Offline drunkenshoe

Re: Political Correctness
« Reply #26 on: September 04, 2020, 04:59:21 AM »
Convert to what?  He is pretty unclear, probably because he is young.

Or grew up and living in a very closed, tribal society. No individuality. He probably feels like very rebellious and accomplishing something with posting here all that.
"I believe you find life such a problem because you think there are good people and bad people. You're wrong, of course. There are, always and only, the bad people, but some of them are on opposite sides." Havelock Vetinari

Offline Baruch

Re: Political Correctness
« Reply #27 on: September 04, 2020, 11:34:54 AM »
Or grew up and living in a very closed, tribal society. No individuality. He probably feels like very rebellious and accomplishing something with posting here all that.

Adults - cancel all the children
Abortion Clinic - hold my beer
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ ła’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.