Isnt Judaism same as Aryanism (Nazism)

[Kibla92]

Ethnochauvinism, racism, tribalism ... the usual suspects ;-)

I can quote the conspiracy theories, but they are all wrong.

It is an open question, should there be an ethnically pure ethnostate?  Well, Japan is a working example.  The US is attempting the opposite.

I am not much a believer in such. I just think people should condemn supremacy movements all together, and be anti crime etc.
But somehow leftism seem to have their own for of supremacy movement. Just doesnt make much sense to me

Well to be more exact.. In USA atleast. "Maybe UK but i dont think its that crazy as USA"

[Baruch]

I am not much a believer in such. I just think people should condemn supremacy movements all together, and be anti crime etc.
But somehow leftism seem to have their own for of supremacy movement. Just doesnt make much sense to me

Well to be more exact.. In USA atleast. "Maybe UK but i dont think its that crazy as USA"

A naturally ethnocentric monoculture is one thing (but Norway speaks two different written forms of Norwegian) ... Japan is perhaps a purer example.  Koreans and Burakumin exist there.  And Shinto is the default ethnographic-religion, with Buddhism added by those who like that, also Christianity (provided it is purely private, not politic).  Japanese new religions (mostly derivative of Buddhism) flourish, but again as long a they are not politically disruptive.  This is wholly different from the US (excepting Native American tribal religions).  So if you are deeply Norwegian, the US is crazy.

Now to take a more pluralistic country like Germany, which has multiple kinds of Germans, and earlier many Jews ... and wasn't even a modern country before 1870 ... that was bound to be a mess, if you impose a fictional ethnocentric monoculture.  Would you support the eradication of the Sami, or the eradication of one of the two Norwegian orthographies (bokmål and nynorsk) aka rubbing out Danish historical influence?  Seems if you want to be a pure Viking you have to move to Iceland and speak their language ;-)  But I think human hubris isn't going anywhere.

[Kibla92]

A naturally ethnocentric monoculture is one thing (but Norway speaks two different written forms of Norwegian) ... Japan is perhaps a purer example.  Koreans and Burakumin exist there.  And Shinto is the default ethnographic-religion, with Buddhism added by those who like that, also Christianity (provided it is purely private, not politic).  Japanese new religions (mostly derivative of Buddhism) flourish, but again as long a they are not politically disruptive.  This is wholly different from the US (excepting Native American tribal religions).  So if you are deeply Norwegian, the US is crazy.

Now to take a more pluralistic country like Germany, which has multiple kinds of Germans, and earlier many Jews ... and wasn't even a modern country before 1870 ... that was bound to be a mess, if you impose a fictional ethnocentric monoculture.  Would you support the eradication of the Sami, or the eradication of one of the two Norwegian orthographies (bokmål and nynorsk) aka rubbing out Danish historical influence?  Seems if you want to be a pure Viking you have to move to Iceland and speak their language ;-)  But I think human hubris isn't going anywhere.

Arguments from Norwegians i have talked on forums is they say "Languages change over time" but i overall wouldnt mind changing to Icelandic since it kind of is more true to the roots of norse language. But i aint complaining

But i think its overall better if people try to help where they are. And find the good vs bad ideas. I can believe all cultures are equal.. Just that not all values in cultures are good. Some are good, some are bad.

Probably could make a wall rant on what the ultimate way would be politically and religiously. Although the easiest answer is usually, religion is private affair, and politics is usually trying to do what is best for people who live there. I think that makes mostly sense to me. Interms of infrastructure, better schools, more job opportunities etc. Atleast i would think that would be better for future generations atleast. Depending what skills one has.

[Baruch]

Yes, reasonable people have means to make things better.  I don't consider you a troll, just a young adult.

[Blackleaf]

Same argument can be said about people who blame white Europeans in America and Europe though for all evil in the world.

And this argument has been made by...who? No one. You've just been told that liberals hate white people, and like a good dog, you eat that shit up and assume it is true without an ounce of skepticism.

[Kibla92]

And this argument has been made by...who? No one. You've just been told that liberals hate white people, and like a good dog, you eat that shit up and assume it is true without an ounce of skepticism.

In USA this is a culture though. Its a self loathing culture for whatever reason. And i think they are actively pro crime too over there. ( I mean they dont say they are... usually try to hide it, saying "you cant blame these people or.. police are bad")

Basically when i think of white liberals in USA. I tend to think of Death Wish 3 movie, where people loot, steal, kill as a daily habbit.

[Blackleaf]

In USA this is a culture though. Its a self loathing culture for whatever reason. And i think they are actively pro crime too over there. ( I mean they dont say they are... usually try to hide it, saying "you cant blame these people or.. police are bad")

Basically when i think of white liberals in USA. I tend to think of Death Wish 3 movie, where people loot, steal, kill as a daily habbit.

You're living in a fantasy world. Rather than watch videos from the Alt-Right, who put words in Liberals' mouths to strawman them and make them look bad, try using your brain and ACTUALLY LISTENING to what Liberals are saying?

[Baruch]

And this argument has been made by...who? No one. You've just been told that liberals hate white people, and like a good dog, you eat that shit up and assume it is true without an ounce of skepticism.

Most liberals hate themselves (imperfect) and society (imperfect) ... change my mind.  Black liberals of course hate Black people, for being imperfect.

People who post here, only like science fiction and only when it matches their fantasies.  Better adjusted people love themselves and society, even if they are imperfect.  And have a broader church when it comes to fiction.

[Kibla92]

You're living in a fantasy world. Rather than watch videos from the Alt-Right, who put words in Liberals' mouths to strawman them and make them look bad, try using your brain and ACTUALLY LISTENING to what Liberals are saying?

I dont have to listen to alt right.

David Dorn was killed by looters during Black Lives Matter riots who loot and ruin shops. Its real, not fiction

[Baruch]

I dont have to listen to alt right.

David Dorn was killed by looters during Black Lives Matter riots who loot and ruin shops. Its real, not fiction

He was a good man.  Like my nephews ... one is a cop, the other is a fireman.  But there are no facts unless it comes from CNN.  So for deniers, David Dorn never existed, or if he did, he wasn't killed, and even if he was killed, he wasn't killed by rioters, and even if he was killed by rioters, both major parties aren't using these riots for their won evil agendas.

But then, there is no morality, no legality, no ethics.  Just do whatever you want and DAMN the results.  It is what nature calls us to do.

[Kibla92]

[Blackleaf]

I dont have to listen to alt right.

David Dorn was killed by looters during Black Lives Matter riots who loot and ruin shops. Its real, not fiction

A black man was murdered by someone robbing a store, therefor Liberals hate white people? Do you think before you hit send? You know the advantage of forums vs verbal dialog is you can stop and review what you're saying before making it public.

[Kibla92]

A black man was murdered by someone robbing a store, therefor Liberals hate white people? Do you think before you hit send? You know the advantage of forums vs verbal dialog is you can stop and review what you're saying before making it public.

So who is pro crime though? Ask yourself that question. Who is misunderstood all the time. The victim? Or the criminal?
It depends what they define as criminals. White liberals are ok with hating sexists. But if its murder for the sake of socialism, some social justice bullshit.. oh then its something else

[Baruch]

A black man was murdered by someone robbing a store, therefor Liberals hate white people? Do you think before you hit send? You know the advantage of forums vs verbal dialog is you can stop and review what you're saying before making it public.

Nothing that ever happens, is the fault of the Dems, unless it is higher employment etc.  Cherry picking ass.  Joe Biden didn't kill David Dorn.  As far as I know, Hitler never killed anyone personally.  See, everyone is an altar boy!

[Blackleaf]

So who is pro crime though? Ask yourself that question. Who is misunderstood all the time. The victim? Or the criminal?
It depends what they define as criminals. White liberals are ok with hating sexists. But if its murder for the sake of socialism, some social justice bullshit.. oh then its something else

What are you talking about? You're starting to sound like Baruch now, starting a conversation about one thing, and then retreating to some completely different topic when you get pushback.

You want to talk about murder? How about a white militia being welcomed by the police, resulting in peaceful protesters being shot at and killed? Did the police stop the violence, or did they let that white supremacist go home, and only arrest them after people pressured them to do so? Again, you're living in a fantasy world. Wake the fuck up and stop acting like an idiot.