Author Topic: I'm right all the time  (Read 143 times)

Offline Sal1981

I'm right all the time
« on: July 25, 2020, 04:00:41 PM »



"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool" --- Richard P. Feynman

Offline Baruch

Re: I'm right all the time
« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2020, 06:48:30 PM »
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ ła’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Re: I'm right all the time
« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2020, 07:18:35 PM »

kindness and compassion...............well, that leaves christians out.   See, practicing kindness already...................
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent,
Is he able but not willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able or willing?
Then why call him god?

Online Hydra009

Re: I'm right all the time
« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2020, 07:57:16 PM »
kindness and compassion...............well, that leaves christians out.   See, practicing kindness already...................
Was a close friend or family member a Christian and mean to you?  :P

I'm pretty surprised by how much current shouting matches are affected by past negative experiences.  I confess that I would otherwise have a favorable view of vegans and poth...marijuana enthusiasts.

Re: I'm right all the time
« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2020, 09:57:11 PM »
Was a close friend or family member a Christian and mean to you?  :P

I'm pretty surprised by how much current shouting matches are affected by past negative experiences.  I confess that I would otherwise have a favorable view of vegans and poth...marijuana enthusiasts.
Nope--the only close family member that is christian is my little brother.  He has not done anything to personally harm me--but he is a trumpie--that's harm enough.  Personally, I've had many, many good contacts and interactions with christians.  I base my disdain on the christian world due to it's dark history and utter dishonesty of it's leadership.
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent,
Is he able but not willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able or willing?
Then why call him god?

Offline Draconic Aiur

Re: I'm right all the time
« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2020, 10:15:16 PM »

Offline Sal1981

Re: I'm right all the time
« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2020, 06:41:47 AM »
The intro with Mr. Cloud & Mr. Sun is a small tale about intentions. Where the first approach, blowing wind at the man with the overcoat, gets the man to huddle up and protect himself. While Mr. Sun's approach, being a sun, is using "niceties" to get the man to throw his overcoat - or it's just two figures making a bet.
"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool" --- Richard P. Feynman

Offline Baruch

Re: I'm right all the time
« Reply #7 on: July 26, 2020, 11:34:40 AM »
The intro with Mr. Cloud & Mr. Sun is a small tale about intentions. Where the first approach, blowing wind at the man with the overcoat, gets the man to huddle up and protect himself. While Mr. Sun's approach, being a sun, is using "niceties" to get the man to throw his overcoat - or it's just two figures making a bet.

Two figures making a bet.  See Book of Job.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ ła’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Offline drunkenshoe

Re: I'm right all the time
« Reply #8 on: July 26, 2020, 02:56:50 PM »
Nope--the only close family member that is christian is my little brother.  He has not done anything to personally harm me--but he is a trumpie--that's harm enough.  Personally, I've had many, many good contacts and interactions with christians.  I base my disdain on the christian world due to it's dark history and utter dishonesty of it's leadership.

You know what, weirdly enough I never had a family member at the opposite side of the political spectrum. I always get curious when people talk about this. But then thinking now, I don't know any religious people either. One that comes to mind (she is a muslim) doesn't follow the traditional aspects of the religion.
"I believe you find life such a problem because you think there are good people and bad people. You're wrong, of course. There are, always and only, the bad people, but some of them are on opposite sides." Havelock Vetinari

Re: I'm right all the time
« Reply #9 on: July 26, 2020, 04:55:46 PM »
You know what, weirdly enough I never had a family member at the opposite side of the political spectrum. I always get curious when people talk about this. But then thinking now, I don't know any religious people either. One that comes to mind (she is a muslim) doesn't follow the traditional aspects of the religion.
My mother was not a dictator; one always knew what she thought about things--personal and political--but she never rejected one for it, or insist one accept her thoughts.  She would not associate with you if she thought one was basically dishonest or mean spirited.  But if she were alive and knew what the politics of my little brother is, she would tell him in no uncertain terms he would no longer be welcome in her home. 
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent,
Is he able but not willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able or willing?
Then why call him god?

Offline Baruch

Re: I'm right all the time
« Reply #10 on: July 26, 2020, 05:46:35 PM »
You know what, weirdly enough I never had a family member at the opposite side of the political spectrum. I always get curious when people talk about this. But then thinking now, I don't know any religious people either. One that comes to mind (she is a muslim) doesn't follow the traditional aspects of the religion.

You lived a sheltered life of a Turkish exile under the glass pyramid at the Louvre? (scene from end of Wonder Woman).
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ ła’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Re: I'm right all the time
« Reply #11 on: July 26, 2020, 05:58:40 PM »
Nope--the only close family member that is christian is my little brother.  He has not done anything to personally harm me--but he is a trumpie--that's harm enough.  Personally, I've had many, many good contacts and interactions with christians.  I base my disdain on the christian world due to it's dark history and utter dishonesty of it's leadership.
Remember, Christians want the world to end so their Jesus will come and save them. I think that's why they like Trump so much, they think he will end the world.
God Not Found
"There is a sucker born-again every minute." - C. Spellman

Offline Baruch

Re: I'm right all the time
« Reply #12 on: July 26, 2020, 06:00:35 PM »
Remember, Christians want the world to end so their Jesus will come and save them.

Crazy, yes?  Commies want to save the world, so they can lead happy lives as commissars.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ ła’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Offline drunkenshoe

Re: I'm right all the time
« Reply #13 on: July 27, 2020, 02:51:19 AM »
My mother was not a dictator; one always knew what she thought about things--personal and political--but she never rejected one for it, or insist one accept her thoughts.  She would not associate with you if she thought one was basically dishonest or mean spirited.  But if she were alive and knew what the politics of my little brother is, she would tell him in no uncertain terms he would no longer be welcome in her home.

If we are talking about racism; racist policies, she was principled (and tough). There are religious people with the same set of principles. And if we think about it, it is the one fundamental principle people shouldn't compromise. Do we know anything worse than racism? It's the source of everything else.

Honestly, I have no idea what would I do if I had kids and one turned up supporting right wing racist policies. But then, to make a generalisation, mostly those people do not accept this is the case.

"I believe you find life such a problem because you think there are good people and bad people. You're wrong, of course. There are, always and only, the bad people, but some of them are on opposite sides." Havelock Vetinari

Offline drunkenshoe

Re: I'm right all the time
« Reply #14 on: July 27, 2020, 04:23:38 AM »
You lived a sheltered life of a Turkish exile under the glass pyramid at the Louvre? (scene from end of Wonder Woman).

Westerners need to learn to see beyond the politics imposed in and out; the real life in muslim countries to have a healthy opinion about the reality of the world.

"I believe you find life such a problem because you think there are good people and bad people. You're wrong, of course. There are, always and only, the bad people, but some of them are on opposite sides." Havelock Vetinari