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Re: Fascism in action in Los Angeles County
« Reply #15 on: July 19, 2020, 04:59:20 PM »
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Offline Hydra009

Re: Fascism in action in Los Angeles County
« Reply #16 on: July 19, 2020, 05:26:46 PM »
“Fascist” is a lot like “racist” these days; people use them in inappropriate, and honestly just wrong, contexts all the time. This waters down the meanings of these words and true power they hold. When they’re just thrown around all over the place, things that really fit these descriptions aren’t taken as seriously and what once was a very clear picture of what they stood to mean or represent becomes murky. And it’s not good for things like that to be murky or “up for debate”, there is a whole legacy and many historical contexts behind them that we’re now given permission to ignore or minimize.
Yep, and the worst part about that is that the the first people who claim these terms don't mean anything are actual racists who use this wolf-crying behavior as some sort of defense for their own behavior.  "'Racist' doesn't mean anything.  You guys call everybody you don't like racists!"  Well, if you're wearing a white hood and say you say some racist stuff, then it's probably a fairly accurate label, regardless of its general misuse.
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Offline Baruch

Re: Fascism in action in Los Angeles County
« Reply #17 on: July 19, 2020, 05:56:43 PM »
But you people love Newspeak.  Trump is double-plus un-good!
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Offline Sal1981

Re: Fascism in action in Los Angeles County
« Reply #18 on: July 19, 2020, 07:19:35 PM »
But you people love Newspeak.  Trump is double-plus un-good!
O rly?

I'm of the conviction that if you can't explain something in simple terms, you don't understand it in complex terms.


The word "fascist" has been very watered down recently.  It was getting that way before, but in the last 4 years it has come to mean anyone who doesn't subscribe to the woke mob.  But in this case it really does apply in its original form.
It has always meant to mean authoritarian fucks who want to control other people's behavior and limiting their freedom. What has happened in the U.S. is that the fascists, knowing that their reprehensible excuse of an ideology - which used to be underground - has been given a boost by Trump & Co., they've grown more confident in espousing their idiocy. It used to be that they dog whistled their moronic beliefs in an attempt to affect people, who had no convictions either way, to agree with their authoritarian takes. But now the fascists have pretty much dropped their facade and are out in the open.
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Offline Baruch

Re: Fascism in action in Los Angeles County
« Reply #19 on: July 19, 2020, 07:53:20 PM »
All liberals have brains like giant headed bald aliens, aieee .

Narcissism by any other name, is just as stinky ;-0

I hope all liberals (nobody here of course) gets disappeared like the not-so-funny comedian in V For Vengeance (sarc).
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Offline Draconic Aiur

Re: Fascism in action in Los Angeles County
« Reply #20 on: July 20, 2020, 02:31:00 AM »
I think we should limit the term 'fascism' to represent a dictatorial, ultra right nationalist governance. The word is becoming obliterated.

I call BS. Fascism can occur with every political idea, but history of today marks the word "conservative or right winged", because people are either blind or ignorant of actual history. Look at the history of communism and national socialists, especially in Russia, South America, and Africa.

Offline Shiranu

Re: Fascism in action in Los Angeles County
« Reply #21 on: July 20, 2020, 03:28:35 AM »
The prison industrial complex does some fucked up shit, congrats on finally realizing that.

I call BS. Fascism can occur with every political idea, but history of today marks the word "conservative or right winged", because people are either blind or ignorant of actual history. Look at the history of communism and national socialists, especially in Russia, South America, and Africa.

Fascism by definition is right-wing, ultra-nationalistic authoritarianism. At the VERY best your boogieman left is only one of those; they are logically not right-wing and they are certainly not nationalistic. I wouldn't call the "far left" authoritarianism either, since you require authority to actually be one... but if they had power, I'm sure some of them would be.
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Offline Draconic Aiur

Re: Fascism in action in Los Angeles County
« Reply #22 on: July 20, 2020, 06:01:54 AM »
The prison industrial complex does some fucked up shit, congrats on finally realizing that.

Fascism by definition is right-wing, ultra-nationalistic authoritarianism. At the VERY best your boogieman left is only one of those; they are logically not right-wing and they are certainly not nationalistic. I wouldn't call the "far left" authoritarianism either, since you require authority to actually be one... but if they had power, I'm sure some of them would be.


Did you get that definition from Wikipedia?

Here's a definition not by Wikipedia:

Definition of fascism:
 A political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fascism


Re: Fascism in action in Los Angeles County
« Reply #23 on: July 20, 2020, 06:16:29 AM »
Linguistic shift.
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Offline Shiranu

Re: Fascism in action in Los Angeles County
« Reply #24 on: July 20, 2020, 06:27:33 AM »
Did you get that definition from Wikipedia?

Here's a definition not by Wikipedia:

Definition of fascism:
 A political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fascism



They still wouldn't fall under fascists by that definition. Authoritarian, sure, but not fascist.

Offline Baruch

Re: Fascism in action in Los Angeles County
« Reply #25 on: July 20, 2020, 09:08:54 AM »
The prison industrial complex does some fucked up shit, congrats on finally realizing that.

Fascism by definition is right-wing, ultra-nationalistic authoritarianism. At the VERY best your boogieman left is only one of those; they are logically not right-wing and they are certainly not nationalistic. I wouldn't call the "far left" authoritarianism either, since you require authority to actually be one... but if they had power, I'm sure some of them would be.

Hitler did nothing wrong.  You are Nazi phobic.  Please report to HR for reeducation.  Example ,,, China vs Uighers.

Anarchists don't have authority, the Left isn't anarchist, they are Left authoritarian.  See Stalin.
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Offline Baruch

Re: Fascism in action in Los Angeles County
« Reply #26 on: July 20, 2020, 09:10:04 AM »
Linguistic shift.

Newspeak.  Dem = good, Rep = bad
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Offline Baruch

Re: Fascism in action in Los Angeles County
« Reply #27 on: July 20, 2020, 09:11:36 AM »
They still wouldn't fall under fascists by that definition. Authoritarian, sure, but not fascist.

I don't mind if an authoritarian like Mao murders me, only if Hitler does it … bwahah

Being half Germanic myself, I am deeply offended by the Germanophobia here, German dictators aren't worse than the other kinds, given a dictatorship is acceptable.
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Re: Fascism in action in Los Angeles County
« Reply #28 on: July 20, 2020, 09:13:22 AM »
I call BS. Fascism can occur with every political idea, but history of today marks the word "conservative or right winged", because people are either blind or ignorant of actual history. Look at the history of communism and national socialists, especially in Russia, South America, and Africa.
Making statements like this proves to me you are a piss-poor historian.  Most of what you are alluding to are dictatorships, and they come in all sizes, shapes and colors and flavors.
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Offline Baruch

Re: Fascism in action in Los Angeles County
« Reply #29 on: July 20, 2020, 09:14:38 AM »
Making statements like this proves to me you are a piss-poor historian.  Most of what you are alluding to are dictatorships, and they come in all sizes, shapes and colors and flavors.

You hate Southern dictators but love Northern dictators.  Davis vs Lincoln.

I have come to like dictators and despise democracy ;-(
« Last Edit: July 20, 2020, 09:37:01 AM by Baruch »
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