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Fascism in action in Los Angeles County
« on: July 18, 2020, 04:00:58 PM »
Democratic Los Angeles County, very left and progressive, has done something so bad I can barely believe it.

Boy, 16, was given estrogen for behavioral disorder while in L.A. juvenile hall, suit alleges - Los Angeles Time
Teen boy grew breasts from ‘experimental’ estrogen prescribed in jail, lawsuit says

Parents, of course, not consulted.  A lawsuit has been filed.

Why was he given estrogen?  To treat Oppositional Defiant Disorder.  He didn't respect authority enough.

He's going to need surgery to treat the gynecomastia that he developed, and I would not be surprised if this involved a lot of therapy to treat the other effects.

This is the first time ever that estrogen was used to treat ODD.  Other doctors say it absolutely isn't a treatment for ODD.

Medical experimentation on inmates is definitely a very fascist thing to do.  On a minor no less.  In the left coast no less.

Oh, and before anyone says it, this XY male assigned at birth CIS individual was not suffering any form of gender dysphoria.

The word "fascist" has been very watered down recently.  It was getting that way before, but in the last 4 years it has come to mean anyone who doesn't subscribe to the woke mob.  But in this case it really does apply in its original form.
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Offline Baruch

Re: Fascism in action in Los Angeles County
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2020, 04:50:55 PM »
This was how the British treated Alan Turing.  Was this boy gay?  Feminists want to eliminate all masculinity.
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Offline Draconic Aiur

Re: Fascism in action in Los Angeles County
« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2020, 02:02:29 AM »
Fascism can left or right, but many would deny that left fascism exists because they are brainwashed into believing it that only right fascism exists.

While I think the media is silent about this (because there is little information) because the story doesn't fit their agenda, I'm skeptical about it. Until I have more information I would be neutral because we dont know enough information to assume it was left wing fascism.

Re: Fascism in action in Los Angeles County
« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2020, 07:00:52 AM »
I think we should limit the term 'fascism' to represent a dictatorial, ultra right nationalist governance. The word is becoming obliterated.

 If this allegation holds, it is disturbing evidence that feminist ideologists need to examine where they are headed. Demonizing young males does not benefit society.

Offline SGOS

Re: Fascism in action in Los Angeles County
« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2020, 07:24:13 AM »
I don't see a partisan issue here.  This is an act of atrocity, but I see nothing in the OP, other than it happened in LA, that it has anything to do with either party.  Were the quacks that did it, politically motivated?

Offline drunkenshoe

Re: Fascism in action in Los Angeles County
« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2020, 08:11:21 AM »
You are so full of shit, Jason. The problem here is a 16 yo -or anyone at any age- being subjected to any experiment in the first place, with OR without his and his parents' consent in a fucking prison. Not that the experiment included giving estrogen to a male adolescent. What a deliberate piece of news.

Do you have any idea about the experiments that have been made on prisoners -esp. on nonwhite groups- in the States since 1940s? From injecting cancer cells to chronically ill people, giving syphilis... any kind of disease or LSD, dangerous drugs experiments...etc. The ones made on mentally ill inmates?

Overcrowded, underfunded prisons make very convenient places for these kind of atrocities. And today, as nobody fucking cares or do something, it is actually much easier contrary to the common belief.

This has been a loong standing legitimate topic of discussion in the world. Should prisoners be used in medical experiments?! Guess what? The right and religious wing(s) of any kind in the world largely hold the idea that prisoners should be used in many medical experiments, dangerous and unhealthy jobs, actually if possible, there should be no rights for certain type of criminals at all.

But the problem here seems to be the estrogen, right? I'm so sick of this 'my wife fucked my life' angry white male bullshit. Yeah, it is that simple. You are that simple. This is about estrogen, not the experiment.

How many violent males are there in any kind of prisons in the States who defy any kind of rule, authority? But the agenda of the 'woke mob fascism' found a one 16 year old in a 'very left' LA prison to assert itself, through a procedure that apparently doesn't even have a place in medicine by one doctor, right?

This is the moronic mentality caused American people arrive to this point. You can put yourself in a different place because you vote for 'the third party', you represent the same fucking right wing bullshit.

 
« Last Edit: July 19, 2020, 08:14:20 AM by drunkenshoe »
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Offline drunkenshoe

Re: Fascism in action in Los Angeles County
« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2020, 08:36:45 AM »
What ideology? What feminism? What has an illegal, unethical experiment conducted to obtain control in a confined place has to do with any ideology at all? Millions of people are in prisons in the States. Limited space, more and more coming. Not enough space or man power or money or willingness to make it better. And your idea about is that the feminist ideology at work?

Men have been castrated for thousands of years for any kind of violence, sexual or otherwise, while the percentage of a certain disorder of the sort is 2-3 % at most in any given population. This is the same idea.   

You know what's the fascism in action here? Almost everybody who reads that piece of news feels they need to pin that onto some common demonised group to recieve approval of their own. The fact that you feel the need to percieve this event in this way and express it so is the smooth, consentual fascism itself at work. Manufacturing consent.

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Offline Baruch

Re: Fascism in action in Los Angeles County
« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2020, 09:03:25 AM »
Notice, nobody posting here was present as a witness.  Are we enjoying our news porn?
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Offline Rogue

Re: Fascism in action in Los Angeles County
« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2020, 10:24:24 AM »
Democratic Los Angeles County, very left and progressive, has done something so bad I can barely believe it.

Boy, 16, was given estrogen for behavioral disorder while in L.A. juvenile hall, suit alleges - Los Angeles Time
Teen boy grew breasts from ‘experimental’ estrogen prescribed in jail, lawsuit says

Parents, of course, not consulted.  A lawsuit has been filed.

Why was he given estrogen?  To treat Oppositional Defiant Disorder.  He didn't respect authority enough.

He's going to need surgery to treat the gynecomastia that he developed, and I would not be surprised if this involved a lot of therapy to treat the other effects.

This is the first time ever that estrogen was used to treat ODD.  Other doctors say it absolutely isn't a treatment for ODD.

Medical experimentation on inmates is definitely a very fascist thing to do.  On a minor no less.  In the left coast no less.

Oh, and before anyone says it, this XY male assigned at birth CIS individual was not suffering any form of gender dysphoria.

The word "fascist" has been very watered down recently.  It was getting that way before, but in the last 4 years it has come to mean anyone who doesn't subscribe to the woke mob.  But in this case it really does apply in its original form.

I am shocked at your lack of skepticism here. 1. The article made no mention of a possible gender dysphoria issue. 2. We did not hear from Dr. Wang. 3. He has worked at this facility for a long time without incident.

The doctor could be protecting a transgender person from a father that will not be supportive and possibly abusive. Although I'm quite sure he would know the boy would grow breasts. In a boy's juvenile detention center is maybe not the best place to transition. A hormone blocker would have been too obvious though as far as a gender dysphoria issue.

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Re: Fascism in action in Los Angeles County
« Reply #9 on: July 19, 2020, 10:34:14 AM »
This has been a loong standing legitimate topic of discussion in the world. Should prisoners be used in medical experiments?! Guess what? The right and religious wing(s) of any kind in the world largely hold the idea that prisoners should be used in many medical experiments, dangerous and unhealthy jobs, actually if possible, there should be no rights for certain type of criminals at all.

And yet this happened in Los Angeles.
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Offline Baruch

Re: Fascism in action in Los Angeles County
« Reply #10 on: July 19, 2020, 10:53:51 AM »
And yet this happened in Los Angeles.

It would never happen in an R-mayor city, right?
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ ła’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Offline drunkenshoe

Re: Fascism in action in Los Angeles County
« Reply #11 on: July 19, 2020, 11:36:58 AM »
And yet this happened in Los Angeles.

And? Your lack of perspective on the general politics of your country; the politics of basic administration, control, the state of prisons; administration of a prison in general terms and the policies enforced (not endorsed); basic means of control of a crowd in a confined place...etc. is alarming. By that I mean, simple basic reasoning when given the information in OP piece. It seems most of the Americans are interested in the subject when the words 'estrogen' or 'transgender' are pronounced. 

Besides that...the 'very left', Jason? That translated as central right in politically correct terms in Obama's period. Now, there is no idea what is really going on. Like the very third party.
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Offline Hydra009

Re: Fascism in action in Los Angeles County
« Reply #12 on: July 19, 2020, 12:36:34 PM »
And yet this happened in Los Angeles.
You know, just because something bad happened in LA, doesn't mean the evil libs are committing a fascism.  So far, you have shown what may be a single case of medical malpractice and called it liberal fascism.  Leaps in logic, much?

Offline Hydra009

Re: Fascism in action in Los Angeles County
« Reply #13 on: July 19, 2020, 12:40:05 PM »
When I first saw this thread, I thought it would be about secret police or the concentration camp thing or the rise of nationalism or the "ethnostate" stuff.  lol, nope.
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Re: Fascism in action in Los Angeles County
« Reply #14 on: July 19, 2020, 02:50:49 PM »
Nah,  just bumpersticker politics.
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