Trump Versus Biden

[Hydra009]

I just watched Hannity smear Biden as a puppet of the "far left" and particularly Bernie Sanders and I've gotta tell you guys, this right-wing fearmongering makes Biden look sooo much cooler than he is in reality.

And one of the things they say is that socialism/communism (exact quote: "whatever you wanna call it") is an utter failure in every country that's tried it, leading to nothing but misery.

Convenient terminology failure aside, let's take it as a given that marxism doesn't work - that command economies inevitably crash and burn.  Believe it or not, I'm pretty partial to that position.  No one wants to emulate Stalinist Russia (except Putin) or the Khmer Rouge or China's brand of authoritarianism (except Trump).

What lefties like me are doing is looking at Germany and the Netherlands and especially Nordic countries like Denmark and we're not seeing failure and misery - we see a lot of policies that work, and work much better than what we have here.  And we'd like to learn from them and see if we can't at least partially implement stuff that we know works over here.  So no, we're not following in the footsteps of failure, we're genuinely impressed with their success and want our people to enjoy that kind of success as well.  That's our "radical" and "unAmerican" stance.  Isn't wanting America to be better patriotic, not unpatriotic?

And needless to say, a lot of mainstream Dems aren't on board with even that.  I mean, the last president wasn't even on board with gay marriage at first and had to be talked into it (the policy, I mean, not the...nevermind).  What little reform we actually get is basically just a band-aid on a grievous 2-foot long gash, imho.

The point is that in the US two-party system, it's center-left (with an emphasis on center) against far right.  That's the way it's been for decades and continues to be and any attempt at changing that paradigm just gets crushed to pieces right in front of our eyes.  Us moderately-left are pretty much a people without a homeland.

So these right-wing scaremongers saying that Biden is some radical lefty out to radically transform the US are painting a comically unrealistic picture.  They might as well say that covid is a Dem hoax and that global warming is a chinese hoax.  Just as many people will believe that as the other two.

[Baruch]

Ideology and partisanship are just tools.  Shadowgate on the Shadownet operation ... is releasing whistleblower info which the current grand jury investigation under Barr must have been working with.  It damages the ability of the DoJ to try people, but also prevents the DoJ from running a fake investigation into a bi-partisan corruption, to troll conservatives wanting scalps.  The Deep State isn't partisan, it is for itself, not for America or any party.

n 2016 they were running operations against both Hillary and Trump, so that no matter what happens, the WH is under Deep State control.  Of course the current election is totally fake too.  The trick of magicians is to distract your attention from one hand, while the other hand is doing a trick.  I won't mention names here, but the code name for the real leader is "Voldemort" (and he probably works for someone else), bwahaha.  Under Intel dictatorship since 1963.

Nothing wrong with idolizing Germanic countries.  I am 1/2 Germanic myself.  But China is the prototype of the 21st century totalitarian state, not Germany.

[PickelledEggs]

I love how conservatives complain about "marxist this" and "communist that" "liberal fascist this"

And the republican majority government is fucking taking the mail boxes and destroying the ability for the mail to work efficiently for mail in voting, which is  many people's only hope of voting this election.

Welcome to North Korea.

[Baruch]

Trump Campaign Ad ... I support this message - Kim Jong Un

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMLtkp4AFkc

Give me dictatorship or give me all your money (woke Patrick Henry)

"Restaurant in China apologizes after asking customers to weigh themselves before ordering" ... Brave New Diet

[trdsf]

And needless to say, a lot of mainstream Dems aren't on board with even that.  I mean, the last president wasn't even on board with gay marriage at first and had to be talked into it (the policy, I mean, not the...nevermind).

I'll just add here that it was Biden who forced Obama's hand on marriage equality.

[Baruch]

It was MLK that forced the Kennedy Administration's hand on civil rights.

Biden forced Obama?  With an arm wrestle?

Under Trump since 2017, all gays have been rounded up and executed (in some parallel universe).

"KAMALA HARRIS BLUNDERS BADLY IN CHAT WITH STEPHEN COLBERT, BASICALLY ADMITS SHE'S A LIAR" .. anyone running for office is a liar, so no beans

"USPS flashback: Obama administration removed thousands of mailboxes" ... no wonder he has lukewarm support for Biden ;-)

"Biden Sexual Assault Accuser Livid Over Bill Clinton Speech At DNC" ... LOL, both parties think with their dicks

"The USPS Just Filed A Patent For A Blockchain-Based Secure-Voting System" ... not ready this year, so be patient

"China's anti-Trump election meddling raises new alarm, as DNI calls country biggest threat" ... duh.

[Baruch]

"Cake Lives Matter: Protesters Descend On New York Bakery For Making MAGA-Hat-Shaped Cake" ... so French of them, brioche anyone?

""MEDIA FEIGNS OUTRAGE THAT TRUMP RETWEETED "LET DEMOCRATS CITIES ROT" AS DEMOCRAT CITIES ROT" ... MSM feigns working for a living

Didn't watch the first night of the virtual Dem convention.  I have found them fatally boring since 1972 (last time I watched any convention).  Dems were into Identity Politics way back then, and Eric Sevareid tore them a new orifice for it.  He said "which delegates represent the Lithuanian-American fishermen?".  I still remember this after almost 50 years.  Maroons!

"Trump: Susan B. Anthony to get posthumous pardon" ... anything for NYC drama queen

"Michelle Obama's DNC speech was recorded before Biden picked Harris as running mate, source says" .. Harris not mentioned.  Dem "cringe-vention".

[trdsf]

The simple fact that Lord Dampnut won't commit to accepting the results of the election unless he wins[/i] should have every Constitution-respecting American ready to throw his orange ass out in November.  This is about as un-American as it's possible to be, without actually committing treason.

[Hydra009]

I'll just add here that it was Biden who forced Obama's hand on marriage equality.

I had no idea.  How come his progressive bona fides (and policy positions in general) aren't front and center?  He has a good track record on combating global warming and apparently helped make the clutch play in making gay marriage legal in this country.  Yet, when it comes to how he's portrayed in the media and by the public at large, it's seldom anything more substantial than "he's more presidential" and "not trump".

[Hydra009]

And I've gotta say, the global warming issue is way more important than a lot of people think it is.  It should be a make-or-break issue because it's a life-or-death issue.  Anyone who says this isn't a big deal is a crazy person and should be shown the door asap, not put in charge.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sqdyEpklFU

[Mike Cl]

I had no idea.  How come his progressive bona fides (and policy positions in general) aren't front and center?  He has a good track record on combating global warming and apparently helped make the clutch play in making gay marriage legal in this country.  Yet, when it comes to how he's portrayed in the media and by the public at large, it's seldom anything more substantial than "he's more presidential" and "not trump".

Believe it or not, the Dem convention, so far, has changed my mind about Biden.  I was in the 'He's not trump' camp prior to now.  I now think he would make a good leader, and his character and personality are just what we need--and the average person can relate.  Plus I think he knows how to relegate tasks and power (a very important often overlooked aspect of leadership).   

[Mike Cl]

The simple fact that Lord Dampnut won't commit to accepting the results of the election unless he wins[/i] should have every Constitution-respecting American ready to throw his orange ass out in November.  This is about as un-American as it's possible to be, without actually committing treason.

He is a traitor--his handling of the bounty on US soldier's heads is all the proof we need.  He is clearly un-American by a multitude of his actions and inactions.  If the entire body of of the Repubs in the senate were not cowards, traitors and un-American themselves, the orange monster would have been gone long ago.  Throw Barr into that traitorous group.

[Cassia]

Sent links to all the younger ones in the family so they get their absentee ballots...they complain about things yet sometimes forget to vote.

[Baruch]

The simple fact that Lord Dampnut won't commit to accepting the results of the election unless he wins[/i] should have every Constitution-respecting American ready to throw his orange ass out in November.  This is about as un-American as it's possible to be, without actually committing treason.

Democrats haven't accepted negative election results since 1968 ... in particular in 2000 and 2016.  I hated the way the election in 2000 was run myself.  I blame Justice Scalia, and feel his death as unnatural.

[Baruch]

He is a traitor--his handling of the bounty on US soldier's heads is all the proof we need.  He is clearly un-American by a multitude of his actions and inactions.  If the entire body of of the Repubs in the senate were not cowards, traitors and un-American themselves, the orange monster would have been gone long ago.  Throw Barr into that traitorous group.

Obama is a warmonger (same as George W and Bill).  When are you going to turn them into The Hague?  How is treason charges based?  Agreement with DNC conspiracy with CCP?