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Baruch

#330
Quote from: Cassia on October 10, 2020, 08:49:02 AM
I had a scary thought. I need to forget about the news for now.

One probable scenario for the upcoming election IMHO: many Trump voters will physically go to the polls and it may initially seem more like a Trump victory on election night. Then as the mail-in votes slowly get counted it will shift to Biden over the next few days. If Trump cries foul and calls out (implied or directly) the tiny minority of armed goons, there may be violence. How, where and when, I do not know.

These fake 'militia' seem inept, mostly gun guys who rub on their AR15s late at night. However there is a slight chance they trigger a reaction from some moderates if these 'militias' manage to get themselves killed.


You have figured out the Illuminati plan ... better not only avoid politics, but fly to your private Caribbean Fantasy Island like the other millionaires ;-)

"RICH PEOPLE PANIC AND START BUYING UP PRIVATE ISLANDS EN MASSE, WHAT DO THEY KNOW THAT WE DON'T??" .. millionaires establishing their own CHAZ.
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Baruch

Quote from: SGOS on October 10, 2020, 08:51:46 AM
Thinking about what I'm reading lately, and all the information I've gotten from the past is that Republicans get money from big donors and Democrats get money from the riff raff.  Of course the riff raff (god love us) doesn't have much money.  I've heard about several Trump donors, or maybe it's just a few donors several times that fork over 100 million at a time.

But during the last couple of weeks, Biden is spending 40 mil a week to Trumps 20 mil.  If the common knowledge (not necessarily accurate knowledge) holds, then it seems like Trump should be outspending Biden by millions each week, especially when he's running behind, but he's not spending, almost like he's blown his nest egg.  Is he holding back until the last couple of weeks?

Corporations being blackmailed by BLM.  When we win, if you don't donate now, you will be the first against the wall!  Also multinational corporations support the CCP.
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Táadoo ánít’iní.
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Don't do that.

SGOS

#332
Quote from: Cassia on October 10, 2020, 08:49:02 AM
I had a scary thought. I need to forget about the news for now.

One probable scenario for the upcoming election IMHO: many Trump voters will physically go to the polls and it may initially seem more like a Trump victory on election night. Then as the mail-in votes slowly get counted it will shift to Biden over the next few days.
I don't think this happens that often.  I can't remember in my lifetime, when the winner of the election wasn't declared that evening.  They always mention that there are still mail in ballots to be counted, but they never seemed to matter.  Now they talk about mail in ballot's like they actually make a difference.  Maybe mail in voting has only been kind of a norm in recent years.  It's been only recently that I'm starting to hear friends say they've been voting by mail for years, but since they never said that before, I'm thinking, "Really?"

Quote from: Cassia on October 10, 2020, 08:49:02 AM
If Trump cries foul and calls out (implied or directly) the tiny minority of armed goons, there may be violence. How, where and when, I do not know.


The first time I heard about this was a couple of years ago when some crazy preacher said that if Trump loses the next election, there will be rioting and shootout's in the street.  Now, it's been like a rallying cry, but I think it's just hype.  It's wishful thinking, and no doubt some right wingers would love it, but I don't think it's seriously caught on yet.  Given time, hate speech can turn into actions, but I don't think we are there yet.

Quote from: Cassia on October 10, 2020, 08:49:02 AM
These fake 'militia' seem inept, mostly gun guys who rub on their AR15s late at night. However there is a slight chance they trigger a reaction from some moderates if these 'militias' manage to get themselves killed.
They are like little kids playing "Army."  They ARE inept, but bold, and they can do a lot of damage.  Mostly their effect will be to intimidate.  They are terrorists.  Their purpose is to intimidate and wear down opposition, and attract other nut jobs to the cause.  I'm thinking starting a bloody revolution is a long shot.  They don't really have a plan for what comes after a revolution, but few revolutions do.  It just leads to anarchy, followed by a power vacuum, and then some self seeking dictator that surfaces.  Mostly these guys will get run over and squashed when the tanks show up.

Baruch

"Donald Trump undertakes medical evaluation in post-COVID-19 interview" .. he is now Covid drug free.  I want every Dem officeholder to be checked daily in public to see if they are drug free ;-)
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Blackleaf

"Kamala Harris was so disrespectful, so unlikeable. Unlike our guys."

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=631667860849705
"Oh, wearisome condition of humanity,
Born under one law, to another bound;
Vainly begot, and yet forbidden vanity,
Created sick, commanded to be sound."
--Fulke Greville--

SGOS

Quote from: Blackleaf on October 10, 2020, 01:12:56 PM
"Kamala Harris was so disrespectful, so unlikeable. Unlike our guys."
Republicans are just bigger versions of grade school kids.

Baruch

Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Baruch

#337
Quote from: SGOS on October 10, 2020, 01:22:23 PM
Republicans are just bigger versions of grade school kids.

Dems are just bigger versions of infants (Biden is Ukrainian sugar daddy)

"SECOND TRUMP BIDEN DEBATE CANCELED, ITS ALL RIGGED AS 3RD MODERATOR TRIES HIDING HER PAST TWEETS" ... Comet Pizza is her favorite place to lunch
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Táadoo ánít’iní.
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Don't do that.

Hydra009

#338
Quote from: SGOS on October 10, 2020, 08:51:46 AM
Thinking about what I'm reading lately, and all the information I've gotten from the past is that Republicans get money from big donors and Democrats get money from the riff raff.  Of course the riff raff (god love us) doesn't have much money.  I've heard about several Trump donors, or maybe it's just a few donors several times that fork over 100 million at a time.
That's something that seems true, but it doesn't appear to be the case.

https://www.opensecrets.org/2020-presidential-race/joe-biden/candidate?id=N00001669

https://www.opensecrets.org/2020-presidential-race/donald-trump/candidate?id=N00023864

https://www.opensecrets.org/2020-presidential-race/bernie-sanders/candidate?id=N00000528 (famous for his small-donations campaign, posted for contrast - note the relative lack of "outside groups")

Of course, this leaves out dark money, which is by definition unreported political spending, so your guess is as good as mine.

Hydra009

#339
And speaking of fundraising:

At the beginning September (bear in mind this isn't super recent news, October's numbers haven't been officially posted yet afaik), the Biden campaign reported $466 million cash on hand compared to Trump's $325 million.

QuoteHis [Trump's] campaign and the Republican National Committee spent almost all the money they took in during August, though they were still outspent by Biden's campaign and the Democratic National Committee, according to the filings.

QuoteOn television advertisements, Biden outspent Trump nearly 4 to 1 in August, according to the tracking firm Ad Analytics.

Trump's campaign bought no ads on local TV in Pennsylvania, Michigan and New Hampshire, and was outspent by Biden significantly in Florida, North Carolina and Wisconsin.

Unbeliever

There isn't really much of a Trump campaign, I think, because the GOP is expecting to successfully steal the election, so why spend all that money now. They're only going through the motions so it won't t be so obvious that they're going to reinstall Trump no matter what it takes.
God Not Found
"There is a sucker born-again every minute." - C. Spellman

Baruch

#341
Quote from: Unbeliever on October 10, 2020, 03:32:19 PM
There isn't really much of a Trump campaign, I think, because the GOP is expecting to successfully steal the election, so why spend all that money now. They're only going through the motions so it won't t be so obvious that they're going to reinstall Trump no matter what it takes.

All Dems are poor pacifists like Gandhi?  Goldman-Sachs wins every election.

"Now Biden Says Filling Ginsburg Seat 'Not Constitutional' - And Americans Don't 'Deserve To Know' If He'll Pack Court" ... all hail Emperor Biden!  So what kind of drugs are they giving him??
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Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
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Don't do that.

Gawdzilla Sama

Fox News is calling for Biden to put country ahead of party.

They didn't even try to get T.rump to do the same.
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Baruch

Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on October 10, 2020, 06:38:20 PM
Fox News is calling for Biden to put country ahead of party.

They didn't even try to get T.rump to do the same.

Actually putting country ahead of party, would require outlawing both major parties, jailing all their leaders (see George Washington Farewell Address).  Do you really want that?  Or are you just a shill for your favorite party?
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Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
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Don't do that.

Blackleaf

Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on October 10, 2020, 06:38:20 PM
Fox News is calling for Biden to put country ahead of party.

They didn't even try to get T.rump to do the same.

That's because they're shameless hypocrites who don't play by the same rules. When a Conservative Supreme Court justice died in Obama's last year in office, he didn't nominate a Democrat, because he knew the Republicans would be concerned about the court actually leaning to the Left the way they always liked to claim that it already was. Instead, Obama nominated a moderate, who didn't lean heavily in either direction. Because Democrats are willing to compromise. Now, for Fox News to tell Biden to put "country ahead of party," that's a complete joke. Biden was the most tame Democrat we had to choose from. He was chosen because he was safe and nonthreatening, not because he has these grand ideas about how he's going to fix things. They expect us to believe that Biden is a Socialist, that he's going to abolish the police and abolish the prisons? Please.
"Oh, wearisome condition of humanity,
Born under one law, to another bound;
Vainly begot, and yet forbidden vanity,
Created sick, commanded to be sound."
--Fulke Greville--