Author Topic: Trump Versus Biden  (Read 28088 times)

Offline Draconic Aiur

Re: Trump Versus Biden
« Reply #1845 on: January 24, 2021, 04:39:46 AM »
When will Trump finally be put in jail?

Offline SGOS

Re: Trump Versus Biden
« Reply #1846 on: January 24, 2021, 05:21:05 AM »
Martha Stewart went to jail because she sold stocks that her broker told her were going to slide.  But she was nobody of political interest and had no ability to fire anyone in the Justice Department or the Pentagon.  She had no means of retaliation.  She was found guilty to show the common man that no one was above the law, but Bankers selling fraudulent investments and making working people homeless, while bringing the economy to it's knees were rewarded with a tax payer bailout that provided the worst of the bunch with huge annual bonuses.  So will Trump go to jail?  That's not the way American Justice works.


Offline drunkenshoe

Re: Trump Versus Biden
« Reply #1847 on: January 24, 2021, 05:41:43 AM »
... He and his family going way back were racist and white supremists. It is interesting in how he did not try to hide any of this--not ever. ...

Why do you think they see themselves racists to begin with? We can write very sophisticated stuff about this but there is no need. It's very simple. From their point of view, all the history has been made by the white men, all the development has been achieved by the white men, the people who runs god's kingdom on earth have been white men; the world belongs to the white men. White men are in charge, white men has the wealth, property, power... The god himself is a white man. :lol: If they don't believe in this fully, breathe this vision of the world and its history, how can they even reach to that position in the first place?

Well, relatively a short time ago certain groups started to stir up and move. Non-whitegroups, women, LGBT groups...etc. But they have done that before. They always do it. It's a routine. Obviously, there is a reason why he was destined to have this life and lead just in this era, it is the same reason.

But above t****... The crucial point, what gets me eeevery time...the fact that this is actually about wealth. Nobody likes to hear it. "Why do you hate the rich people?" LOL How many times I've heard that? What fucking bullshit. There is no such thing as clean fortune and people above certain amount of wealth is above the law, until it is inconvenient for the others in the same class.

Do you think Jeffrey Epstein saw himself as a rapist and sex trafficker? Do you think pedophile aristocrats, politicians, business men see themselves as child rapists? Yeah not all of the filthy rich are child rapists, and sex traffickers and murderers or what not. But the reality is that they are exempt of the conseqences of their actions in a wide scale, maybe except tax evation any other money related crimes. Basically, that is the only thing filthy amount of money can't afford, because it is all about accumulation of filthy amount of money; wealth. The rest is for the other 99%.
"I believe you find life such a problem because you think there are good people and bad people. You're wrong, of course. There are, always and only, the bad people, but some of them are on opposite sides." Havelock Vetinari

Offline drunkenshoe

Re: Trump Versus Biden
« Reply #1848 on: January 24, 2021, 05:47:53 AM »
Martha Stewart went to jail because she sold stocks that her broker told her were going to slide.  But she was nobody of political interest and had no ability to fire anyone in the Justice Department or the Pentagon.  She had no means of retaliation.  She was found guilty to show the common man that no one was above the law, but Bankers selling fraudulent investments and making working people homeless, while bringing the economy to it's knees were rewarded with a tax payer bailout that provided the worst of the bunch with huge annual bonuses.  So will Trump go to jail?  That's not the way American Justice works.

She is out of the accumulation of wealth. She is just a client. There are lots of people like that. They are the American dream window items. Bankers are the crucial gate keepers, closely related to the 1% who holds that very accumulation.

Have you seen the Big Short? It feels like I have asked this question before, but not sure. Also Laundromat? 
"I believe you find life such a problem because you think there are good people and bad people. You're wrong, of course. There are, always and only, the bad people, but some of them are on opposite sides." Havelock Vetinari

Offline SGOS

Re: Trump Versus Biden
« Reply #1849 on: January 24, 2021, 08:45:37 AM »
I've read The Big Short three times, and seen the movie countless more times.  I haven't heard anything about Laundromat.

Re: Trump Versus Biden
« Reply #1850 on: January 24, 2021, 09:23:41 AM »
Martha Stewart went to jail because she sold stocks that her broker told her were going to slide.  But she was nobody of political interest and had no ability to fire anyone in the Justice Department or the Pentagon.  She had no means of retaliation.  She was found guilty to show the common man that no one was above the law, but Bankers selling fraudulent investments and making working people homeless, while bringing the economy to it's knees were rewarded with a tax payer bailout that provided the worst of the bunch with huge annual bonuses.  So will Trump go to jail?  That's not the way American Justice works.
Yeah, Martha earned street cred with the Snoop. Interestingly enough there is a new phenomena occurring with the stock market related to social media. The Reddit group "Wallstreetbets" is a large group of seemingly young people who trade futures mostly with the cell phone app "Robinhood". They literally chat up and gang in on a particular stock so hard that they pump the price up so fast (the exchanges have to halt trading periodically). There may be absolutely little or no other reasons for the sharp increases. They have a cult language and are very entertaining. I coded a custom stock scanner in my trading app and sure enough it often finds the very stock they are concentrating on. This week it is 'Gamestop' I am sure the SEC will be looking into all this.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-01-22/gamestop-tug-of-war-gives-reddit-army-a-win-on-record-volatility

Offline drunkenshoe

Re: Trump Versus Biden
« Reply #1851 on: January 24, 2021, 09:35:54 AM »
Yeah, Martha earned street cred with the Snoop. Interestingly enough there is a new phenomena occurring with the stock market related to social media. The Reddit group "Wallstreetbets" is a large group of seemingly young people who trade futures mostly with the cell phone app "Robinhood". They literally chat up and gang in on a particular stock so hard that they pump the price up so fast (the exchanges have to halt trading periodically). There may be absolutely little or no other reasons for the sharp increases. They have a cult language and are very entertaining. I coded a custom stock scanner in my trading app and sure enough it often finds the very stock they are concentrating on. This week it is 'Gamestop' I am sure the SEC will be looking into all this.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-01-22/gamestop-tug-of-war-gives-reddit-army-a-win-on-record-volatility

Oh wow. Can they do something about it or is it just yeah, well...?
"I believe you find life such a problem because you think there are good people and bad people. You're wrong, of course. There are, always and only, the bad people, but some of them are on opposite sides." Havelock Vetinari

Re: Trump Versus Biden
« Reply #1852 on: January 24, 2021, 10:04:00 AM »
Oh wow. Can they do something about it or is it just yeah, well...?
Good question. Pumping up a stock is not inside trading and well there is that free speech thing. Someone will get stuck holding low valued shares when it does tank. Some of these kids are investing Grandma's life savings. They do a thing called "loss porn", LOL when they lose. This is not the intended market mechanism for investing in public corporations, but that was all setup before social media, just like politics.

Monday they are making a pump play at "Blackberry", ticker: "BB" and also they are still pumping Gamestop. I may pull up those charts for a modest 10 second strike.
 

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Online Hydra009

Re: Trump Versus Biden
« Reply #1853 on: January 24, 2021, 05:38:26 PM »
New President.  You know what that means?  POLL TIME!

Biden enjoys a 55% approval rating (Trump never broke 50% his entire presidency), 69% (noice!) approve of Biden's pandemic response and about 40% of Republicans approve of Biden's pandemic response, which is abnormally high for this *cough* demographic (about 80% of Republicans approved of Trump's response for pretty much the entire pandemic, which is strange for a number of reasons.  First and foremost, I'd love to meet the people who approved of both lol)

Biden approval broken down by ideology:
92% from Democrats, 52% from Independents, 21% from Republicans

Offline Shiranu

Re: Trump Versus Biden
« Reply #1854 on: January 24, 2021, 05:45:04 PM »
New President.  You know what that means?  POLL TIME!

Biden enjoys a 55% approval rating (Trump never broke 50% his entire presidency), 69% (noice!) approve of Biden's pandemic response and about 40% of Republicans approve of Biden's pandemic response, which is abnormally high for this *cough* demographic (about 80% of Republicans approved of Trump's response for pretty much the entire pandemic, which is strange for a number of reasons.  First and foremost, I'd love to meet the people who approved of both lol)

Biden approval broken down by ideology:
92% from Democrats, 52% from Independents, 21% from Republicans

I'm curious about the Independent approval rating, because the few things he has been able to do so far have been solid.

Offline Shiranu

Re: Trump Versus Biden
« Reply #1855 on: January 24, 2021, 05:46:35 PM »

Online Hydra009

Re: Trump Versus Biden
« Reply #1856 on: January 24, 2021, 06:18:48 PM »
I'm curious about the Independent approval rating, because the few things he has been able to do so far have been solid.
Me, too.  But apparently, they habitually just split the diff between the Republicans and Democrats.  If Republicans said that 2+2=6 and Democrats said that 2+2=4, these guys would go with 5.

Offline SGOS

Re: Trump Versus Biden
« Reply #1857 on: January 24, 2021, 06:23:31 PM »
I'm curious about the Independent approval rating, because the few things he has been able to do so far have been solid.
It's easy enough to read a poll, but interpreting seems harder.  Democrats love him because he's a democrat.  Republicans hate him because he's not a Republican.  This is always a given, whether he does anything or not.  I've never paid much attention to independents, and I have no idea if the group is big enough to bother caring about or not.  But...

92% from Democrats, 52% from Independents, 21% from Republicans puts Independents almost square in the middle of the Dems and the Pubs.  Everything is I would expect in the first week of a new presidency. 

I'm not exactly an independent, because I will never vote Republican, but I'm too liberal to call myself a Democrat.  I approve of everything Biden has done so far, but there's a lot of things to come, and I will never agree with him on Obamacare, the environment, or income equality.  Civil rights, I'll wait and see.  I'm progressive.  I want progress.  I'm not happy with the status quo.  And everything Biden has said, makes me think he will be stable, but nothing is going to happen that will be a surprising step forward.  I think at best he will restore some of what was lost under Trump, but I don't think he will equal Trump in the amount of net change he accomplishes.  However, I will be happy to be surprised.

Online Hydra009

Re: Trump Versus Biden
« Reply #1858 on: January 25, 2021, 05:32:02 PM »


America's mayor

Re: Trump Versus Biden
« Reply #1859 on: January 25, 2021, 11:17:32 PM »
The last week in the Trump White House was suddenly a very polite place.
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