Author Topic: Trump Versus Biden  (Read 27933 times)

Re: Trump Versus Biden
« Reply #1755 on: January 16, 2021, 02:34:20 PM »
As a Southerner, I assumed that federal soldiers stationed to prevent violence by crazed pro-confederate lunatics was a normal thing.

Yeah, but last time federal soldiers were stationed to prevent violence by pro-confederate Democrats ... oh, wait ...
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Re: Trump Versus Biden
« Reply #1756 on: January 16, 2021, 03:07:14 PM »
In 1932 Hoover deployed the regular Army in DC to rebuff the marching soldiers who were demanding end of service pay.
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Re: Trump Versus Biden
« Reply #1757 on: January 16, 2021, 03:40:22 PM »
Yeah, but last time federal soldiers were stationed to prevent violence by pro-confederate Democrats ... oh, wait ...

Are you seriously trying to claim that Democrats are still the problem, because a long time ago, before long before either of us or any currently elected politician was alive, Democrats used to be the party of the South, as if neither party had undergone any significant changes since then? Please tell me you're not that ignorant.

And of course, I seriously doubt you've made so much as a Google search to determine if that really was the last time federal soldiers were deployed to prevent insurrection, but I'm not going to put in more effort in debunking you than you put in regurgitating something you heard on Fox News.
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Re: Trump Versus Biden
« Reply #1758 on: January 16, 2021, 03:49:26 PM »
Yeah, but last time federal soldiers were stationed to prevent violence by pro-confederate Democrats ... oh, wait ...
What if I told you that the ideologies of the two main parties have changed considerably in the past 60 years?  This is US Political History 101 stuff, lol.

And this is yet another rookie mistake that basically no one except conservatives make, and usually the dumber ones at that.  Why not just be honest about where you're coming from?  Cause I guarantee you, that would be much better received than embarrassingly weak hot takes coming at us from a position of bad faith.  The Intelligent Design people kept their true motivations hidden better than this.

Next you'll probably deny the Southern Strategy as if denying it somehow erases it from history.
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Re: Trump Versus Biden
« Reply #1759 on: January 16, 2021, 05:44:39 PM »


This is a surprisingly good video on the topic, from a Christian and the creator of VeggieTales, no less.
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Born under one law, to another bound;
Vainly begot, and yet forbidden vanity,
Created sick, commanded to be sound."
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Re: Trump Versus Biden
« Reply #1760 on: January 16, 2021, 06:44:40 PM »
Yeah, but last time federal soldiers were stationed to prevent violence by pro-confederate Democrats ... oh, wait ...
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Re: Trump Versus Biden
« Reply #1761 on: January 16, 2021, 08:47:37 PM »
This is a surprisingly good video on the topic, from a Christian and the creator of VeggieTales, no less.
It also gives context as to why some people recoil from seemingly inoffensive words like "states rights" and "law and order".

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Re: Trump Versus Biden
« Reply #1762 on: January 16, 2021, 09:11:08 PM »
Petition to revoke Harvard degrees of Trump supporters

If someone attended Harvard, and then went on to support Trump, this petition is to revoke their degrees, obviously.

There should be no place in society for anyone who supported Trump.

There are so few Trump supporters around here that people are making them up.  Careful with that, you may wind up going down the route of the Salem Witch Trials instead of where you want to go.
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Re: Trump Versus Biden
« Reply #1763 on: January 16, 2021, 11:54:49 PM »
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There should be no place in society for anyone who supported Trump.


Hey, we agree on something!
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Re: Trump Versus Biden
« Reply #1766 on: January 17, 2021, 03:32:22 AM »


This is a surprisingly good video on the topic, from a Christian and the creator of VeggieTales, no less.

Thanks for that! It's a good video for foreigners. My general impression is correct, but I didn't know the specifics, certain events. I'd seen old US maps which blue-red spread was different. Also, it is nice to hear decent American English.
 
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Re: Trump Versus Biden
« Reply #1767 on: January 17, 2021, 06:13:10 AM »
Petition to rename the moon
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Titan. Mimas. Europa. Enceladus. Hyperion. Iapetus. Charon. Triton. What do these all have in common? They are moons. But one key thing sets them apart from earths moon. Their names are fucking BAD-ASS. Why does't OUR moon have a cool name?
Shit, our moon is so inconsequential that it doesn't even have a name.  It's like having a dog, and just calling it dog, or calling your wife, wife.  All the other planets have names for their moons.  Something is seriously wrong with the system.

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Re: Trump Versus Biden
« Reply #1768 on: January 17, 2021, 07:17:28 AM »
This is the headline that usually follows every post election loss, no matter the party.  A loss is always followed by an evaluation of strategies.  It's human nature and a necessary group dynamic.  I think the media usually exaggerates the debate, but in my experience, neither party changes much.

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HEADLINE: Post Trump, Republicans Are Headed for a Bitter Internal Showdown
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NYT The bitter infighting underscores the deep divisions Mr. Trump has created in the G.O.P. and all but ensures that the next campaign will represent a pivotal test of the party’s direction, with a series of clashes looming in the months ahead.
The reason this happens is because of a loss.  If Trump had won the election, nary a Republican would have protested, and they would just stay on the same track. 

Trump reached out to the Party's more dangerous and violent fringes, and of course he captured the hearts of the Evangelicals.  Republicans were happy bashing ANTIFA, BLM, and liberals.   

The Proud Boys, the White Nationalists, and KKK have defined the Party these last four years.  Or maybe Trump defined the party through them.  But Republican voters seemed to love having them on board.

Trump did not exhibit his petulant child until after the loss, but that was not the reason he lost.  He had already lost before that side of him became so outrageously apparent.  He may have lost some of his moderate supporters over that embarrassing performance but certainly Republicans were not displeased with him before then.  He was probably the most loved Republican president since Eisenhower, but also the most hated.  The hated part was why he lost.

None the less, the upcoming discussion may be interesting, although I doubt that the public will get to know much of what goes on in the discussions.
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Re: Trump Versus Biden
« Reply #1769 on: January 17, 2021, 07:38:54 AM »
Shit, our moon is so inconsequential that it doesn't even have a name.  It's like having a dog, and just calling it dog, or calling your wife, wife.  All the other planets have names for their moons.  Something is seriously wrong with the system.

I could live with the current system if it were consistent. But we don't call the earth just 'planet' now do we?
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