Author Topic: Trump Versus Biden  (Read 27932 times)

Online Hydra009

Re: Trump Versus Biden
« Reply #1740 on: January 14, 2021, 09:02:54 PM »
49.6% of Republicans in office hold a far-right, conspiracy theory ideology.
2.7% of Democrats hold a "far-left" ideological view.

When put into of the entire Congress, that means that 24.1% hold objectively far-right views while only 1.3% of Congress hold "far-left" views.
I dun tell yuh whut, I dunno wut all those terriristic arab numberos mean, but I heard on tha radier that AOC is super-stalin - most radical communist socialist ever and that tha dems are all equally as radical.  This country has moved too far too the left (California is closer to Japan now than it has ever been) so Trump should be president till 2024 just to counterbalance it.  All Pence has gotta do is declare him President again and it's all ovah fer the 'rats treasonous fake election.

Offline Shiranu

Re: Trump Versus Biden
« Reply #1741 on: January 14, 2021, 09:29:58 PM »
Since I guess this is the "Orange Man Bad" thread at this point...



The Trump family has apparently started looting of the White House, which is on-brand for them since in 2018 when they were visiting the U.S. Embassy in France they reportedly took home $750,000 worth of art from it. Cancelled a ww2 memorial because "rain hurt my heady :(" though.

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-took-art-us-ambassador-france-home-canceling-wwi-event-2020-9

Offline Shiranu

Re: Trump Versus Biden
« Reply #1742 on: January 14, 2021, 09:35:33 PM »
I dun tell yuh whut, I dunno wut all those terriristic arab numberos mean, but I heard on tha radier that AOC is super-stalin - most radical communist socialist ever and that tha dems are all equally as radical.  This country has moved too far too the left (California is closer to Japan now than it has ever been) so Trump should be president till 2024 just to counterbalance it.  All Pence has gotta do is declare him President again and it's all ovah fer the 'rats treasonous fake election.

No, no you have a good point... those numbers are Arabic so they probably are lying.

Do people who use numbers convert to Islam at a higher rate? Should probably investigate that.

Online Hydra009

Re: Trump Versus Biden
« Reply #1743 on: January 14, 2021, 09:53:26 PM »
No, no you have a good point... those numbers are Arabic so they probably are lying.

Do people who use numbers convert to Islam at a higher rate? Should probably investigate that.
Europe currently uses arabic numerals and has lots of Muslims.  In the past, Europe did not use arabic numerals and did not have Muslims.  Irrefutable logic.

Offline Shiranu

Re: Trump Versus Biden
« Reply #1744 on: January 14, 2021, 10:36:57 PM »
I wonder if the threats to the state capitols could be a feint to draw law enforcement there so as to be able to attack softer targets?

I bet some of those people have read The Art Of War, and know enough to use it.

Thought I responded, but apparently it didn't go through...

I wouldn't be surprised. While the foot soldiers we see are obviously not the brightest rockets in the toolshed, there are smarter people behind the scenes directing this. There are organizers, and if you are cunning enough to manipulate that anger into a mob that stormed the Capitol then being able to strategize a diversion shouldn't be beyond you.

Online Hydra009

Re: Trump Versus Biden
« Reply #1745 on: January 15, 2021, 01:14:15 AM »
Poor boys gang member arrested for threatening to kill Warnock on Parler

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He was arrested in his home in Queens, N.Y., where authorities said they found more than 1,000 rounds of ammunition and military-style combat knives, NBC New York reported on Wednesday. Florea was reportedly not allowed to have that ammunition due to a previous arrest and conviction in 2013 for a firearms-related felony.
Interesting how this sort of illegal hoarding and previous offenses tends to crop up among radicalized Ameri-daesh.  Always lots of warning signs before the big day.  Thankfully, this one was caught in time.

And about Parler, pretty much their entire database is available to investigators.  So don't expect this to be the last arrest.

Offline drunkenshoe

Re: Trump Versus Biden
« Reply #1746 on: January 15, 2021, 01:16:55 AM »
As a Southerner, I assumed that federal soldiers stationed to prevent violence by crazed pro-confederate lunatics was a normal thing.

Of course it is,lol. I really didn't know there was still a threat.

But they could have done with less exposed, less immediate style pics. They could have just taken a few from outside, confirming the protection.
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Offline SGOS

Re: Trump Versus Biden
« Reply #1747 on: January 15, 2021, 07:14:18 AM »
A friend of mine said that once Biden is elected, things will be OK.  He and I almost had a parting of our ways over that.  Yes, things will improve with Biden, but this division capitalized on by Trump (Trump did not invent it), is not going away.  Biden may be a 2% solution and a temporary one at that to a problem that is 90% out of control.  Basically, not a solution, but just a brief pause.  And I'm not sure if it will be a pause.  Trump supporters (can you say, "Republicans,") are not likely to put down their weapons and become model citizens.  The fact is they don't like America as it always was, and have no need to end their acts of sedition.  They are itching for a fight, and have been for 50 years.  When you own that many assault rifles, there comes a time when gun nuts will want to put them to their intended purpose.  Rebellions will be put down, but at a great cost.

The left sees Trump as the problem.  The right sees him as the solution.  The right sees Biden, who was the farthest right presidential contender of the Democratic Party in 2020, as the worst possible president we could have.  If Bernie would have won the nomination, they would see him as the worst.  They see the voting system and democracy as something like an ultra left conspiracy that can only be fixed by authoritarian force.  I'm not implying that Bernie could fix things that Biden won't.  Somethings he could fix with a more liberal Congress, but no one can fix the fundamental problem of America.  You can't fix stupid. 

The media could help by not presenting conspiracy theories and lies as news, and I think the biggest purveyors of dangerous nonsense are trying to do something about it, but they talk about banning misinformation until after the inauguration, as if their real desire is to get back to collecting revenue.  It seems like they don't quite understand the need for a paradigm shift that needs to last for more than one election cycle.

Re: Trump Versus Biden
« Reply #1748 on: January 15, 2021, 08:03:55 AM »
If you wake up on a Sunday and drive a '92 Olds through corn fields and cow pastures on your way to your 98.7% 'white' church that sits in the middle of the remnants of a deteriorating small town you probably believe in (and long for) 1950s America. Frugal, conservative, hardworking, never ask for help, proud, up early-to bed early, bacon and eggs. Life was good and wholesome, praise Jesus.

 Things are hard now and what has changed? Well...just turn on the TV. Brown, black and homosexuals aplenty. Atheists! China! Everything they value is being challenged. Not cognizant to the fact their leaders have bid their good jobs away while nickel and diming them to death. It's not that much of a stretch that Democratic Satan-worshipers are running a child-sex ring. Yeah, this is gonna go on for a long time. It comes down to their offspring. How far does the apple fall?
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Offline SGOS

Re: Trump Versus Biden
« Reply #1749 on: January 15, 2021, 09:04:56 AM »
It comes down to their offspring. How far does the apple fall? [/color]
I have hopes for the youth.  I'm not sure why, because indoctrination is real.  I was raised a Lutheran first, and a Republican second. I first decided the Republican Party cared little for the middle class and realized there was nothing in that for me.  I was always skeptical about God, but eventually realized that even if he was real, he cared little for the middle class, the poor, or the wealthy, but both of those epiphanies came well into or after my thirties.  So I'm 2 for 2 on leaving indoctrination.  But I don't think that's typical.  I did have a distant great uncle who was an atheist.  He married one of my grandmother's sisters.  My father didn't like him, but as a kid I did.  He was much nicer to me than most adults.  So I decided atheists weren't as bad as I was taught.  But I still had to do a lot of thinking to find my way out of the God box.

Re: Trump Versus Biden
« Reply #1750 on: January 15, 2021, 01:21:47 PM »
Capitol mob aimed to ‘assassinate’ elected officials, feds say
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/capitol-mob-aimed-to-assassinate-elected-officials-feds-say

I simply hate the way the antifa mobs are so out of control.

“Strong evidence, including Chansley’s own words and actions at the Capitol, supports that the intent of the Capitol rioters was to capture and assassinate elected officials in the United States Government,” prosecutors wrote in their memo urging the judge to keep Chansley behind bars."

Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent,
Is he able but not willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able or willing?
Then why call him god?

Online Hydra009

Re: Trump Versus Biden
« Reply #1751 on: January 15, 2021, 03:40:14 PM »
Y'allqaeda suspect charged for attacking a cop with a flagpole

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Video footage shows Stager with a large group on the stairs of the Capitol building and holding a flagpole. Another video shows Stager hit the officer while he “remained prone on the steps.”

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The second informant said that Stager claimed he “did not know the man he was struck on the ground with the flagpole was a cop and that he thought the person he was striking was Antifa.”
I guess it really is true that these delusional and easily misled people see Antifa everywhere.

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The officer was easily identifiable, however, as he was wearing a uniform with the words “METROPOLITAN POLICE” across his back, prosecutors said.
Well, that explains the confusion.

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Stager allegedly told the second informant he planned to turn himself in and apologized for assaulting a member of law enforcement.
The most sincere apology ever, no doubt.

Re: Trump Versus Biden
« Reply #1752 on: January 15, 2021, 05:03:32 PM »
r memo urging the judge to keep Chansley behind bars."



Yeah, like they shouldn't have let Rittenhouse out, now he's being serenaded by the Proud Boys.
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Online Hydra009

Re: Trump Versus Biden
« Reply #1753 on: January 16, 2021, 01:57:22 AM »
Georgia considering charging Trump with election interference

Reportedly they're looking to find 11,780 lawyers to file the lawsuit.
« Last Edit: January 16, 2021, 01:59:44 AM by Hydra009 »

Offline SGOS

Re: Trump Versus Biden
« Reply #1754 on: January 16, 2021, 07:42:31 AM »
Georgia considering charging Trump with election interference
Apparently, the integrity of the vote in Georgia was important enough to make laws against fraud.  I suppose this might be true for most states, and it's not really surprising that a state would want a valid count.  The stunning part is that Trump would violate a state law. 

Did he understand that his actions were a violation of the law?  That's like asking if he is mentally competent to stand trial.  Whether he understood it or not his ethical sense should have told him it was wrong. 

Maybe he thought it wasn't wrong, because he knew there was fraud.  Except, he or his lawyer didn't know there was fraud, because they were using the evangelical definition of the word "Know," as in "evidence is not required to know something."  That involves a long chain of faulty logic.  I'd like to see his lawyers defend that faulty logic led Trump to "knowing" there were uncounted votes.

Maybe evangelical logic is an excuse for accidentally violating the law:  "Sorry, Your Honor.  I didn't realize I was tricked by a logical fallacy into actually believing I was within my rights.  I didn't mean to break the law.  It was an accident."

Maybe he will argue that a mob of thousands, also knew the count was fraudulent, and that many people couldn't be wrong, or that self righteous ignorance is perfectly OK if one is sincere.

Maybe this is just a dream, or maybe we are in Alice's Wonderland, and none of this is real.
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