George Floyd and racial justice

[SGOS]

Police trap peaceful protestors while ordering them to disperse

Well, you got all these weapons of destruction and high tech punishing devices.  If people just run away from you, how much fun is that?  Since you're overstaffed anyway, you might as well use those guys on bikes to pen them in.  Kind of like shooting fish in a barrel.  It's pointless, but there's still lots of action and a lot of fun for all.

The press really needs to ask the police commissioner to justify this strategy.  To tell people to do something and then prevent them from doing it just so you can use your weapons on them is an egregious use of power.  It's not enforcing anything. Well, I guess the point could be, "We can do anything we want to anybody, no matter how unjustified, and you can't stop us." 

This kind of shit underscores further how out of control law enforcement is in our country, as well as many elected leaders.  When you start getting as sick of the police as you are of criminals, the system is broken.  Al Capone was more respected than our costumed crime fighters of today.

[Baruch]

We are so doomed. Is it wrong of me to wish for less Americans so I might get a career as a museum curator?

You want to work in a museum?  Are you addicted to doom porn?

Yes, every individual is doomed.  Life is a competition like it or not, one that you inevitably lose.  Afterlife of not, your body is dying one day at a time.  Whether all people die on the same day, or on many different days, isn't my problem.

[Hydra009]

I bet the police brought him into custody with the utmost care.

[Baruch]

"Antifa Militia Wing Wants 'Complete Abolition' Of System" ... Democrats are like Sein Fein ... AntiFa is like IRA.  Thanks Ireland!

Change the name of this string to Communist Revolutionaries?

"As BLM Protests Raged, Chicago Saw Highest Black-On-Black Murder Rate In 60 Years" ... Democrats are Murder Inc.  Been so in Chicago since the days of Al Capone.

[Hydra009]

Seattle police unleash CS gas on civilians, despite city ban

Just days after Seattle’s mayor and police chief promised a month-long moratorium on using a type of tear gas to disperse protesters, the department used it again during an overnight protest â€" bringing severe criticism Monday from City Council members, vows to overhaul the department and an additional call for the mayor’s resignation.

“How many people need to write in about being gassed in their own homes? How many people have to be sprayed in the street every night or experience getting hit with flash bombs or rubber bullets?” Council Member Teresa Mosqueda said during a council briefing.

Mosqueda, the Seattle council’s budget chair, announced an inquest into the police budget to get a better understanding of how the department spends money. She said she wants to cut police funding by half and reinvest the money “in communities that we’ve failed,” including in affordable housing and mass transit.

If the community is subsidizing their own abuse, literally buying the baton that beats them and the gas they choke on (a chemical weapon designed to induce severe coughing is especially dangerous during a pandemic, btw), then imho it makes sense to look to other ways of allocating those funds, because obviously the current system isn't working.

Officers ordered people to disperse and announced on Twitter that “CS gas has been authorized,” referring to tear gas. In the same tweet, the department said there was a man with a gun in the intersection; it was not clear whether that referred to the same driver who had been arrested hours earlier, or, if it was a different gunman, why the department would use clouds of tear gas, potentially obscuring where he was.

Curious.  Very curious.

[drunkenshoe]

I've been trying to understanding what this culture understands from 'protest'. I realise that this is something that keeps changing. And unfortunately, the change is the same everywhere.

So as far as I understand, the majority trying to be at the right of the history missed the point.

You don't go out to protest because you are brave. You go out because you are fucking scared.

[trdsf]

So I read up about this George Floyd case and I know it was wrong for a cop to kill a man when in custody, but this man was a criminal that stole and had a armed robbery against a African family and even threatened to kill a pregnant African woman. Who also was on illegal drugs at the time when he gave a counterfeit 20 dollar bill. Also  why is this a race thing? Because it was a white cop and a black man? This is police brutality issue not a racist issue.

Well, let me ask this: even if he was stoned, and even if he'd passed a counterfeit $20... since when are either of those capital offenses?

[Unbeliever]

It's all about blaming the victim.

[Unbeliever]

I just saw, on CBS, that Floyd and Chauvin ''had a history of not getting along,'' so there may have been some personal animosity in the murder.

[Hydra009]

Well, let me ask this: even if he was stoned, and even if he'd passed a counterfeit $20... since when are either of those capital offenses?

Or being old and slow-moving.  Or a medic tending to a wounded person.  Or the high crime of being a journalist and simply filming, which has deeply unsettling implications.

Completely disproportionate violence.

Sometimes they say stuff like "someone threw a bottle" (which in at least one instance, was a blatant lie)

Well, good thing they're decked head to toe in body armor, complete with a face mask and riot shield.  That way they're well protected and don't have to do anything rash in retaliation.  Yet they do anyway.  Force of habit?  (forceful habit?)

[Mike Cl]

I've been trying to understanding what this culture understands from 'protest'. I realise that this is something that keeps changing. And unfortunately, the change is the same everywhere.

So as far as I understand, the majority trying to be at the right of the history missed the point.

You don't go out to protest because you are brave. You go out because you are fucking scared.

And I might suggest, scared mixed with pissed to fight the 'scared'.  And now is a good time to be scared.

[Baruch]

I've been trying to understanding what this culture understands from 'protest'. I realise that this is something that keeps changing. And unfortunately, the change is the same everywhere.

So as far as I understand, the majority trying to be at the right of the history missed the point.

You don't go out to protest because you are brave. You go out because you are fucking scared.

Some don't go for protest.  Some are AntiFa terrorist, some are just criminals using it as cover.  Concentrating on the Derrida deconstruction of political dialog ... is a waste of time.

[Baruch]

I just saw, on CBS, that Floyd and Chauvin ''had a history of not getting along,'' so there may have been some personal animosity in the murder.

That and the bar was a political activist front, and a place for passing counterfeit money ;-(

[Baruch]

Well, let me ask this: even if he was stoned, and even if he'd passed a counterfeit $20... since when are either of those capital offenses?

Being born is a capital offense - G-d

[Baruch]

It's all about blaming the victim.

All humans are victims of G-d.  And I agree with G-d, humans should be blamed.