George Floyd and racial justice

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Hydra009

Quote from: Shiranu on June 05, 2020, 12:49:35 PMshe also invoked the 3rd Amendment to have the National Guard Trump brought in kicked out of their hotels and is informing them they are no longer welcome in the capital.
Heard about that.  I also saw Sen Mike Lee throw a infantile tantrum about it on twitter, apparently convinced that it's a sign of "ingratitude" to send away armed soldiers quartered in the hotel in clear violation of the constitution.  You'll never guess his political affiliation.  He's described as leaning "libertarian", too.  They must've meant authoritarian.

drunkenshoe

:)

Quote from: Shiranu on June 05, 2020, 12:49:35 PM
16th Street, Washington D.C. , which runs near the church where protesters and clergy were violently displaced so Trump could get a photo op at a church, has been renamed by the Mayor as "Black Lives Matter Plaza". But the mayor didn't stop with just that symbolic slap in Trump's face... she also invoked the 3rd Amendment to have the National Guard Trump brought in kicked out of their hotels and is informing them they are no longer welcome in the capital.

(For our foreign members, the 3rd Amendment states that the government cannot quarter troops in private property during times of peace, which was a really big deal for us as the English were doing exactly that with their Quartering Act, forcing Americans to pay for their lodging in inns, ale houses and homes.)


It's good to see the mayor reminding him that D.C. belongs to her and the people of the city, not him. For a city of over 700,000 who have no Congressional representation, the mayor doing stuff like this is about the most the city can do to assert it's own autonomy.




https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/06/05/black-lives-matter-mural-painted-near-white-house-mayors-behest/3153364001/

https://www.sltrib.com/news/politics/2020/06/05/utah-national-guard/
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Shiranu

From 2016, this video shows the murder of Daniel Shaver (white male) at the hands of an officer. A "concerned citizen" called the police after they saw him with an assault rifle in a hotel room (he was pest control, and it was a tool to hunt rats... not a rifle). The footage starts with Shaver on the floor and complying with police, answering questions. This goes on for several minutes before they demand he crawl towards them, issuing multiple confusing instructions and threatening every time that one wrong move and they will kill him.

He begins crawling to them like a fucking dog, crying for his life, before they open fire on him 5 times.

Brailsford, the officer who shot Shaver 5 times, was accused of second degree manslaughter but was found "not guilty" because it was in "self-defense". Just hours after the case was closed, the video was released of the shooting, showing that he had murdered Shaver in cold blood.

Brailsford was later reinstated into the police force and then "medically discharged" because of PTSD following the incident. It wasn't until 2019 that it was discovered he receives $2,500 a month from the state.

He murdered a man, got PTSD, and the state pays him for it.

This was the gun he used to execute Shaver.





https://www.tmz.com/2017/12/07/mesa-police-involved-shooting-bodycam-philip-brailsford-not-guilty-daniel-shaver/

"It'S nOt ThAt BaD oVeR tHeRe, ThEsE pRoTeStS aRe JuSt A bUnCh Of WhiNeY lEfTiStS" - Scottish guy who thinks he knows America better than actual Americans do, even though he likely has never even been here much less interacted with an American police officer.
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Baruch

Yep, police are armed and dangerous.  People calling in suspicious activity, innocently (the guy who caught George Floyd with a counterfeit $20 says he will never do that again) or with malice (it has been a fad to call in the swat team on your neighbor just to take vengeance) which results in police over-reaction and possible death.

"Entire Buffalo Police Unit Resigns In Solidarity With Officers Suspended For Shoving Elderly Protester" ... they protect their own, not you.  It appears the police were triggered because a presume protestor was trying to hand them back a fallen police helmet ;-(.  Have nothing to do with police if you can avoid it.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Shiranu




The President of the United States threatening to call either the military or his "Little Green Men"  on the Mayor of an American city for... *checks notes*... enacting her constitutional rights.
"A little science distances you from God, but a lot of science brings you nearer to Him." - Louis Pasteur


Unbeliever

Quote from: Hydra009 on June 05, 2020, 01:14:21 AM
Also in Buffalo NY, police shove elderly man to the ground and he bleeds from the head.  The initial police account was that "one person was injured when he tripped and fell."  Isn't that the sort of self-serving lying that abusive husbands engage in?

The two officers were suspended without pay and an investigation in the works.  Quick response and no "two weeks paid leave" crap?  I'm surprised.  Probably not as surprised as that old man, though.  What'd be truly surprising is if events like this where someone is gravely injured with malice start getting prosecuted as if the law applied to police and citizens equally.
I heard that 57 of the other cops resigned to protest the suspension of the 2.
God Not Found
"There is a sucker born-again every minute." - C. Spellman

Unbeliever

Now cops are saying ''Badges? We don't got no badges. We don't need no stinking badges!''
God Not Found
"There is a sucker born-again every minute." - C. Spellman

Hydra009

#338
Police raid gay bar for providing water to protestors (is that a crime?)

Not to be confused with a similar raid a few days ago in Raleigh NC.  That one involved firing "less lethal" (aka borderline-lethal) rounds at civilians, including medics, which is weird because their handbook on the use of force doesn't allow lethal or "less lethal" use of force unless there is an immediate risk of death or serious injury.  Apparently, you can just do whatever you want if you have a badge.

Baruch

Quote from: Unbeliever on June 05, 2020, 09:52:28 PM
Now cops are saying ''Badges? We don't got no badges. We don't need no stinking badges!''

I wouldn't mess with one, in uniform or undercover.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Hydra009

Quote from: Unbeliever on June 05, 2020, 09:46:15 PMI heard that 57 of the other cops resigned to protest the suspension of the 2.
They didn't resign from the police force.  They resigned from the "Emergency Response Team" (aka Team Elder Abuse)

https://buffalonews.com/2020/06/05/57-members-of-buffalo-police-riot-response-team-resign/

QuoteThe union representing Buffalo police officers told its rank-and-file members Friday that the union would no longer pay for legal fees to defend police officers related to the protests. The union is upset with the treatment of the two officers who were suspended.
Sounds good, doesn't it?  Just wait for the punchline.

QuoteEvans said the PBA stands "behind those officers 100%" and that the union would pay for any defense costs for the two officers, Evans said.
Lessons NOT learned.

Quote"Our position is these officers were simply following orders from Deputy Police Commissioner Joseph Gramaglia to clear the square," Evans said. "It doesn't specify clear the square of men, 50 and under or 15 to 40. They were simply doing their job. I don't know how much contact was made. He did slip in my estimation. He fell backwards."
"She tripped and fell down some stairs.  Right, hon?"

QuoteErie County Executive Mark Poloncarz said Friday afternoon that "if they've resigned, I'm exceptionally disappointed by it because it indicates to me that they did not see anything wrong with the actions that occurred that night."
Yeah, very disappointing.

Baruch

Quote from: Shiranu on June 05, 2020, 07:29:26 PM



The President of the United States threatening to call either the military or his "Little Green Men"  on the Mayor of an American city for... *checks notes*... enacting her constitutional rights.

Which is why, as long as a single Democrat exists, I won't support democracy.  I don't support criminal behavior.  I don't experience that only White people commit crimes.  Most crimes for Blacks are Black on Black.  Black lives don't matter to Blacks.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Baruch

#342
Quote from: Unbeliever on June 05, 2020, 09:46:15 PM
I heard that 57 of the other cops resigned to protest the suspension of the 2.

Supposed to be true (Buffalo NY).  Because cops support cops, but not the mayor.  Dem mayors are communists, who want to destroy all places of business?
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Baruch

#343
Quote from: Hydra009 on June 05, 2020, 07:55:42 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMif3nYMfgM

JFC.

Over-reaction to his approaching them (he was bringing them a police helmet).  In our security training at my old job, we were told in an active shooter situation, to lock down, and never approach the MPs who are arriving, because they can't tell you from an active shooter.  If you do encounter the MPs, don't move at all.  Your movement is the trigger for their violence.

"The Cultural Revolution has come to America" ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXAOTjNheVg

American revolutionaries unite!  You have only to lose your stupid life at the end of a police action.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Blackleaf

"Oh, wearisome condition of humanity,
Born under one law, to another bound;
Vainly begot, and yet forbidden vanity,
Created sick, commanded to be sound."
--Fulke Greville--