George Floyd and racial justice

[Munch]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jun/01/bob-kroll-george-floyd-minneapolis-police-union-chief

oh dear dear. Seems like certain details now coming out about george floyd other news outlets and online boards don't want the world to hear.

Turns out, as told by Lt Bob Kroll, president of the Police Officers Federation of Minneapolis, Floyd has a criminal past, including when he broke into a womans house and held her at gunpoint at her pregnant belly. Also something not often discussed was why the police was called on him in the first place, was that he was using a fake $20 note, leading to the officer being called.

Now obviously this doesn't absolve the police that killed him, they didn't know his criminal past when it occured, although infomation is out also that Derek Chauvin had a past with Floyd in security, have to find more on that, so maybe they had a history themselves.

Again Floyds past deeds doesn't absolve Chauvin for killing him, but it does show things aren't as black and white as being made out, and if this turns out to be true, whats said about him by Bob Kroll, if I were the woman whos life Floyd threatened, I'd probably be thinking less then regretful thoughts at what happened.

[Munch]

https://twitter.com/RichmondPolice/status/1267120558409494532

Richmond police department, how rioters set fire to a building, and stopped police and fire fighters from getting to the building while a child was trapped inside.

[Blackleaf]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jun/01/bob-kroll-george-floyd-minneapolis-police-union-chief

oh dear dear. Seems like certain details now coming out about george floyd other news outlets and online boards don't want the world to hear.

Turns out, as told by Lt Bob Kroll, president of the Police Officers Federation of Minneapolis, Floyd has a criminal past, including when he broke into a womans house and held her at gunpoint at her pregnant belly. Also something not often discussed was why the police was called on him in the first place, was that he was using a fake $20 note, leading to the officer being called.

Now obviously this doesn't absolve the police that killed him, they didn't know his criminal past when it occured, although infomation is out also that Derek Chauvin had a past with Floyd in security, have to find more on that, so maybe they had a history themselves.

Again Floyds past deeds doesn't absolve Chauvin for killing him, but it does show things aren't as black and white as being made out, and if this turns out to be true, whats said about him by Bob Kroll, if I were the woman whos life Floyd threatened, I'd probably be thinking less then regretful thoughts at what happened.

They had him handcuffed, face on the ground, with the officer's knee on his neck for several minutes, until he died. I don't give a fuck about his past.

[GSOgymrat]

I pretty much agree with Pakman. This situation is too complex to use one lens to understand it. People want simple explanations. Lots of people have their favorite hammer and are driving the same damn nail. There are no easy answers.

I don't agree with violence, I don't consider myself a violent person, but I certainly understand and empathize with the urge to smash everything in a fit of rage. I also agree with Pakman that whether violence in political protests or social movements is effective or results in even worse consequences is debatable.

https://youtu.be/0yfM9rkcoxk

[Munch]

guys right, there is no easy, black and white way of looking at this. Theres a few on our dear forum here that feel there is, but this is a more complex issue then just the one way of seeing it.

[Baruch]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jun/01/bob-kroll-george-floyd-minneapolis-police-union-chief

oh dear dear. Seems like certain details now coming out about george floyd other news outlets and online boards don't want the world to hear.

Turns out, as told by Lt Bob Kroll, president of the Police Officers Federation of Minneapolis, Floyd has a criminal past, including when he broke into a womans house and held her at gunpoint at her pregnant belly. Also something not often discussed was why the police was called on him in the first place, was that he was using a fake $20 note, leading to the officer being called.

Now obviously this doesn't absolve the police that killed him, they didn't know his criminal past when it occured, although infomation is out also that Derek Chauvin had a past with Floyd in security, have to find more on that, so maybe they had a history themselves.

Again Floyds past deeds doesn't absolve Chauvin for killing him, but it does show things aren't as black and white as being made out, and if this turns out to be true, whats said about him by Bob Kroll, if I were the woman whos life Floyd threatened, I'd probably be thinking less then regretful thoughts at what happened.

In the US, Black crime is called Reparations.  In UK, Pakistani crime is called "Allah Akbar".

[Baruch]

https://twitter.com/RichmondPolice/status/1267120558409494532

Richmond police department, how rioters set fire to a building, and stopped police and fire fighters from getting to the building while a child was trapped inside.

Criminals are the most rational and non-intoxicated people ever ;-(

[Baruch]

They had him handcuffed, face on the ground, with the officer's knee on his neck for several minutes, until he died. I don't give a fuck about his past.

I don't give a F*#&#^ for criminals.  You defend criminals?  You are a criminal too.  Not justifying cops.  This cop was a well known loose cannon.  His department didn't fire him.  On the other hand, it seems that many police departments train cops to knee you in the neck ;-(

I get it, it is only a crime if a cop does it?  Only a crime if a White does it?  If you think so, burn in a burning building ...

[Baruch]

guys right, there is no easy, black and white way of looking at this. Theres a few on our dear forum here that feel there is, but this is a more complex issue then just the one way of seeing it.

Anyone who sympathizes with Rotherham is a monster.  Anyone who sympathizes with rioters/looters is a monster.  I have no sympathy for sociopaths.  Democracy and civil rights protect sociopaths.  End democracy and civil rights now!

[Shiranu]

guys right, there is no easy, black and white way of looking at this. Theres a few on our dear forum here that feel there is, but this is a more complex issue then just the one way of seeing it.

Name one.

[Shiranu]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a59q6tVHyJ4

[Sal1981]

[spoiler]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a59q6tVHyJ4[/spoiler]

The white supremacists are in the police force, no doubt about it. I would like to know if they are using the chaos as a cover to go full nazi chimpout, or if they're following some nefarious orders from white supremacists secret club *coughkkkcough*.

[Munch]

heres some positive in all this mess.

https://twitter.com/angeldigit/status/1267751644198047746

homeless man in Austin, everything he owned was destroyed by the rioters. But the local community stepped in and gave him a new tent, bed, money and everything to survive.

[Hydra009]

https://i.imgur.com/ekMHN1C.mp4

1) Cop tackles black man (don't know if it was provoked or unprovoked)
2) Cop plants baton on black man
3) Cop starts smashing this guy's hand to "disarm" him, very likely to claim later that the subdued black man was attacking him and everything the cop was doing was in self-defense

If this wasn't on camera, who would you believe?

[Shiranu]

heres some positive in all this mess.

https://twitter.com/angeldigit/status/1267751644198047746

homeless man in Austin, everything he owned was destroyed by the rioters. But the local community stepped in and gave him a new tent, bed, money and everything to survive.

Staged by info wars, but glad he benefited in the end. The video where it happens was filmed by info wars, the guy burning his shit literally has a iw hat on, and the homeless man is screaming at the IW camera man asking him wtf he is doing.


IW is Alex Jones, btw. Far right.