Author Topic: All art is...?  (Read 282 times)

Offline Gregory

All art is...?
« on: April 02, 2020, 10:12:11 AM »
Is reality on the surface of art? Is creating art like printing money?

All art is sublime.

Offline Baruch

Re: All art is...?
« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2020, 10:39:14 AM »
Is reality on the surface of art? Is creating art like printing money?

All art is sublime.

What is communication?  Art is communicating creativity.  From the artist's mind (mostly emotions) to your mind.  An artist is someone with both an ego and a scratch that has to be scratched.

"The theory of sublime art was put forward by Edmund Burke in A Philosophical Enquiry into the Origin of our Ideas of the Sublime and Beautiful published in 1757. He defined the sublime as an artistic effect productive of the strongest emotion the mind is capable of feeling."

This is why Jackson Pollock isn't an artist ;-)
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ ła’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Offline Gregory

Re: All art is...?
« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2020, 11:35:14 AM »
Abstract Expressionism is fractal heaven.
« Last Edit: April 02, 2020, 11:37:17 AM by Gregory »

Offline Baruch

Re: All art is...?
« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2020, 12:34:08 PM »
Abstract Expressionism is fractal heaven.

Ugliness at all levels of magnification?
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ ła’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Offline Gregory

Re: All art is...?
« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2020, 01:09:31 PM »
Fractals are beautiful calculations.

Offline Baruch

Re: All art is...?
« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2020, 01:51:43 PM »
Fractals are beautiful calculations.

Not when done by monkeys spattering paint randomly.  Fractals still don't match reality, which is analog and random (like Jackson Pollock paintings).  We like some degree of order.  Classical = obvious order.  Fractal = subtle order.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ ła’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Offline Gregory

Re: All art is...?
« Reply #6 on: April 02, 2020, 02:10:40 PM »
Pollock was in effect hardly random.

Offline Baruch

Re: All art is...?
« Reply #7 on: April 02, 2020, 02:56:52 PM »
Pollock was in effect hardly random.

Only if you believe in absolute determinism.  I do not.  With absolute determinism, there is nothing random.

Non-random local art ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandpainting#/media/File:Navajo_sandpainting.jpg
« Last Edit: April 02, 2020, 03:01:47 PM by Baruch »
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ ła’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Offline Gregory

Re: All art is...?
« Reply #8 on: April 02, 2020, 03:39:12 PM »
Art is determined by the artist, it is not accidental.

Offline Gregory

Re: All art is...?
« Reply #9 on: April 02, 2020, 04:05:25 PM »
There is no such thing as chance in the world. - David Hume

His thinking is impeccable.

Offline Baruch

Re: All art is...?
« Reply #10 on: April 02, 2020, 07:42:06 PM »
Art is determined by the artist, it is not accidental.

No, art is only valuable after the starving artist has died ;-)
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ ła’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Offline Baruch

Re: All art is...?
« Reply #11 on: April 02, 2020, 07:42:42 PM »
There is no such thing as chance in the world. - David Hume

His thinking is impeccable.

You are making David Hume out to be G-d.  And here I thought he was Scottish ;-)
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ ła’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Offline Gregory

Re: All art is...?
« Reply #12 on: April 02, 2020, 08:32:16 PM »
Improvisation is learnt.

Offline Gregory

Re: All art is...?
« Reply #13 on: April 02, 2020, 08:49:33 PM »
Originality is just a new way of saying the same old thing. Therefore, when you say God, I think genius.

Re: All art is...?
« Reply #14 on: April 02, 2020, 09:00:39 PM »
Originality is just a new way of saying the same old thing. Therefore, when you say God, I think genius.
When I hear "God" or "G_d" or any derivation of said word, I think scam or flim flam man.
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent,
Is he able but not willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able or willing?
Then why call him god?