Author Topic: The last invention: AI  (Read 1606 times)

Offline Baruch

Re: The last invention: AI
« Reply #30 on: July 23, 2020, 05:39:08 PM »
Already happened, Tay, the Nazi chatbot that Microsoft created at Berchetsgaden.
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Offline Hydra009

Re: The last invention: AI
« Reply #31 on: July 23, 2020, 05:49:56 PM »
You know, I'm not sure why people assume ai will lead to mankind's extermination. I don't question it in amusement media. But does intelligence itself entail hostility? Self preservation? The need to conquer? The drive to reproduce? The idea of superiority?
Are these concepts intrinsically linked to intelligence? Or are they merely different traits we exhibit alongside the trait of a modicum of intelligence? Indeed did not these traits, at least all but the latter, predate intelligence? Why would an ai without these traits desire to replace humanity? Or even defend itself?
Human history is filled with the extermination of less intelligent/sapient species (including the rest of our genus) and the enslavement of less technologically advanced peoples in our own species.  They likely see a trend and assume that any improvement over baseline humanity (be it AI or transhumans or aliens) will follow that same pattern.

But this argument relies on the dubious assumption that AI would operate on a basically human psychology - that it would desire to conquer or destroy competitors.

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Re: The last invention: AI
« Reply #32 on: October 01, 2020, 03:06:53 PM »
But this argument relies on the dubious assumption that AI would operate on a basically human psychology - that it would desire to conquer or destroy competitors.

Because we define ourselves by our intelligence, we find that it must be that intelligence is defined by what makes us; us
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Offline Baruch

Re: The last invention: AI
« Reply #33 on: October 01, 2020, 03:22:06 PM »
Because we define ourselves by our intelligence, we find that it must be that intelligence is defined by what makes us; us

Drunk psychopaths?  That is a good look for androids ;-(
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Re: The last invention: AI
« Reply #34 on: October 01, 2020, 03:38:45 PM »
Because we define ourselves by our intelligence, we find that it must be that intelligence is defined by what makes us; us
That sounds like a tautology, but I'm not sure fully understand what you're saying.

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Re: The last invention: AI
« Reply #35 on: October 01, 2020, 03:49:02 PM »
That sounds like a tautology, but I'm not sure fully understand what you're saying.

I'm not saying it's a correct thought, but rather a predominant assumption
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Offline Baruch

Re: The last invention: AI
« Reply #36 on: October 01, 2020, 03:49:54 PM »
That sounds like a tautology, but I'm not sure fully understand what you're saying.

Recursion is a fundamental idea in math and computer science.  Consciousness has been described as a kind of recursion, the self being what is left after you observe yourself observing yourself etc.  It can be argued that given human behavior, we are mostly unconscious even when awake (on autopilot) ... hence the false idea we only use 10% of our brain.  Actually the other 90% is doing actual important work, it is consciousness that is basically neural masturbation ;-)
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Re: The last invention: AI
« Reply #37 on: October 13, 2020, 10:47:12 AM »
"The World's First Fully Driverless Vehicle Ready To Hit The Roads" ... we already had the equal, Telsa with drunk driver or Tesla with driver asleep.  The cops will have a hard time flagging this one down.
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Offline Baruch

Re: The last invention: AI
« Reply #38 on: October 16, 2020, 11:42:05 AM »
"Giant Chinese Crypto Exchange OkEX Suspends Withdrawals After Police Investigation" ... all your Bitcoin belong to China

"UK Grid Warns Of Electricity Shortage Due To Drop In Wind" ... full Green economy is unstable,  gotta have some nuclear etc to provide a base level for the power grid.
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Offline Baruch

Re: The last invention: AI
« Reply #39 on: October 24, 2020, 03:42:27 PM »
"Tesla Warns Its Full Self-Driving Beta "May Do The Wrong Thing At The Worst Time"" .. Elon should be the test dummy in the cross walk!
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Offline Baruch

Re: The last invention: AI
« Reply #40 on: October 26, 2020, 03:39:14 PM »
""Holy Sh*t!": Videos Of Tesla's Full Self Driving Beta Are Surfacing And They're Frightening" .. but like MS software, it will always be in Beta, the users are the Beta testers
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Offline Baruch

Re: The last invention: AI
« Reply #41 on: November 13, 2020, 02:17:46 PM »
"Pope Francis Urges Catholics To Pray For 'Ethical Robots'" ... the Pope should be replaced with a smart phone app that says "My son/daughter your sins are forgiven" ;-)  This guy is a total communist.  AI is the 21st century version of Marxist economics.  A utopia where no one has to work, because the machines will do all the work (slavery without regret) ... until as in the original use of "robot" the robots rise up and kill the humans .. bwahah ... see the Czech play RUR.
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Offline Baruch

Re: The last invention: AI
« Reply #42 on: November 17, 2020, 10:48:48 AM »
"European Vega Rocket Suffers 'Major Failure', $400 Million In Satellites Destroyed" ... "SpaceX's Dragon autonomously docked with the International Space Station" ... once again, socialism wins, capitalism fails ... (cough)
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Offline Baruch

Re: The last invention: AI
« Reply #43 on: November 23, 2020, 10:50:38 AM »
Wingsuit plus electric fan propulsion ... can extend your flight longer ;-))

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Offline Baruch

Re: The last invention: AI
« Reply #44 on: November 24, 2020, 10:58:10 AM »
"Joscha Bach: Artificial Consciousness and the Nature of Reality" on YouTube expresses the nerd view of reality very well, but you need a 3 hour attention span ;-)  Basically life and consciousness are explained in machine (biochemical/computational) terms.  Which pretty much matched Mahayana Buddhism (your identity is an illusion) ... but the very complicated chemical reaction that is "you" is real.  This is produced by the false memory of "I was me yesterday and today" and the false anticipation that you will be the same me tomorrow.
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