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Is Islam a religion of peace?
« on: March 18, 2020, 01:12:33 AM »
Islam is a religion of peace - a conqueror's peace.

All religions are the same - they all want peace on their terms.

Offline Baruch

Re: Is Islam a religion of peace?
« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2020, 04:53:45 AM »
Islam is a religion of peace - a conqueror's peace.

All religions are the same - they all want peace on their terms.

Same as any other gang.  What is your gang sign?
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Offline SGOS

Re: Is Islam a religion of peace?
« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2020, 04:38:55 PM »
Islam is a religion of peace - a conqueror's peace.
This is the point where someone steps in and defends Islam.  I'm actually surprised that no one has.

Offline Baruch

Re: Is Islam a religion of peace?
« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2020, 05:55:22 PM »
This is the point where someone steps in and defends Islam.  I'm actually surprised that no one has.

There is a burkha behind you ... boo!
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Re: Is Islam a religion of peace?
« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2020, 08:12:54 AM »
Waves to Atlas33.
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Re: Is Islam a religion of peace?
« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2020, 09:03:37 PM »
Of course it does..once they kill you, they have peace..just like early Christians did.
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Re: Is Islam a religion of peace?
« Reply #6 on: March 29, 2020, 10:35:53 AM »
There is one piece of evidence that is glaring huge against it being a religion of peace, but they think it is glaringly huge in favor of this.  It involves the Moorish conquest of Spain and the Reconquista.

It is actually against Islamic law to mistreat non-Muslims above and beyond making them pay a special tax for being non-Muslims in Muslim territory.  The problem is, that law only applies in areas ruled by Muslims, especially in areas under Sharia law.  Outside that area they believe no law applies.  Think Grooming Gangs in Britain.  So they are perfectly justified in ignoring laws in areas outside their jurisdiction.

When they conquer a non-Muslim area, it is their belief that they are bringing law and order to that area.  They believed there was no law in Spain until they arrived.  When the Spanish monarchs kicked them out, it was the Muslim belief the monarchs were stealing from the Muslims because the Muslims had established law and the Spanish were taking it away.  They "owned" the territory and it was being "stolen".

That is why during the recent round of everyone asking for reparations, some Imams actually wanted Spain to pay reparations for the Reconquista.
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Re: Is Islam a religion of peace?
« Reply #7 on: March 29, 2020, 11:24:20 AM »
Religious law is only used when convenient. The Fertile Crescent was the home of organized warfare and the blood feud. Nothing has changed.
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Re: Is Islam a religion of peace?
« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2020, 10:05:16 PM »
Possibly excluding Jainism, no religion is a religion of peace -- certainly not when they have (or have gotten into a position to take) political power.  They start talking peace only when they've lost political control.  Only because they don't want done unto them what they did unto others.
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Offline Baruch

Re: Is Islam a religion of peace?
« Reply #9 on: April 01, 2020, 12:10:58 AM »
Possibly excluding Jainism, no religion is a religion of peace -- certainly not when they have (or have gotten into a position to take) political power.  They start talking peace only when they've lost political control.  Only because they don't want done unto them what they did unto others.

Jains have had some political support at times, but haven't oppressed others.  In contrast, Buddhism is intermittently political in a negative way.  It is political in Myanmar and Thailand.  The Buddha himself was closely tied to the "warrior" class in India, with kings in particular.
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Re: Is Islam a religion of peace?
« Reply #10 on: April 01, 2020, 08:41:56 AM »
There are a few peaceful current “cults” that a rather peaceful. The quakers, amish, mennonites somewhat. But anytime one preaches peace and compassion one must keep a picture of John Wesley on hand as a reminder how quickly that turns to shit.
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Offline Baruch

Re: Is Islam a religion of peace?
« Reply #11 on: April 01, 2020, 12:31:17 PM »
There are a few peaceful current “cults” that a rather peaceful. The quakers, amish, mennonites somewhat. But anytime one preaches peace and compassion one must keep a picture of John Wesley on hand as a reminder how quickly that turns to shit.

US Methodist Church split N and S in 1861 over secession.
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