Author Topic: How do you imagine the ''absolute nihil''.?  (Read 909 times)

Offline Gregory

Re: How do you imagine the ''absolute nihil''.?
« Reply #15 on: March 08, 2020, 09:50:23 PM »
I will die.  My soul will be destroyed.  The End.

Offline Baruch

Re: How do you imagine the ''absolute nihil''.?
« Reply #16 on: March 08, 2020, 09:51:30 PM »
I will die.  My soul will be destroyed.  The End.

If you aren't African-American, you have no soul, no rhythm.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ ła’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Re: How do you imagine the ''absolute nihil''.?
« Reply #17 on: March 08, 2020, 11:58:04 PM »
I will die.  My soul will be destroyed.  The End.
You don't have a soul--hence, since having a soul is a fiction, it cannot be destroyed--it never was.
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent,
Is he able but not willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able or willing?
Then why call him god?

Offline Gregory

Re: How do you imagine the ''absolute nihil''.?
« Reply #18 on: March 09, 2020, 02:22:58 AM »
As Christopher Hitchens pointed out when he was alive, there is no other metaphor for soul but soul.
« Last Edit: March 09, 2020, 02:25:25 AM by Gregory »

Offline Baruch

Re: How do you imagine the ''absolute nihil''.?
« Reply #19 on: March 09, 2020, 08:26:27 AM »
You don't have a soul--hence, since having a soul is a fiction, it cannot be destroyed--it never was.

Can't go lower than a random mix of atoms ;-)
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ ła’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Offline Baruch

Re: How do you imagine the ''absolute nihil''.?
« Reply #20 on: March 09, 2020, 08:26:49 AM »
As Christopher Hitchens pointed out when he was alive, there is no other metaphor for soul but soul.

Sole, the white fish.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ ła’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Re: How do you imagine the ''absolute nihil''.?
« Reply #21 on: March 09, 2020, 09:04:49 AM »
As Christopher Hitchens pointed out when he was alive, there is no other metaphor for soul but soul.
Love my Hitchens....................but he was wrong.  The 'soul' is a fiction, like 'our spirit' is a fiction.  In most fictions, the soul is the carrier of the sacred or the spirit, going forward and forever.  One can have many metaphors for 'soul' depending upon what one believes it to be.
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent,
Is he able but not willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able or willing?
Then why call him god?

Re: How do you imagine the ''absolute nihil''.?
« Reply #22 on: March 09, 2020, 01:56:37 PM »
If you aren't African-American, you have no soul, no rhythm.


And if you're not a shoe, you have no sole. So what?
God Not Found
"There is a sucker born-again every minute." - C. Spellman

Offline Baruch

Re: How do you imagine the ''absolute nihil''.?
« Reply #23 on: March 09, 2020, 04:31:32 PM »

And if you're not a shoe, you have no sole. So what?

Putting white fish fillets on the bottom of your shoe, is squishy ;-)
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ ła’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Offline Gregory

Re: How do you imagine the ''absolute nihil''.?
« Reply #24 on: March 10, 2020, 03:43:55 AM »
Can you remember anything from before you were conceived?  The nothingness after death is the same as in the beginning.

Offline Baruch

Re: How do you imagine the ''absolute nihil''.?
« Reply #25 on: March 10, 2020, 11:38:57 AM »
Can you remember anything from before you were conceived?  The nothingness after death is the same as in the beginning.

People have self-reported past-life experiences, for millennia.  I have vivid dreams, some seem to be past-life content.  If you accept vivid dreams or visions (vivid dreaming while awake) as some kind of evidence, then yes, I have past-lives ... but I wasn't exactly myself back then.  Does that still count?

I don't accept the usual model of reincarnation.  And I consider non-wake evidence as being on a different level than wake-evidence.  It seems to me that personal identity is rather loosey-goosey at times, often when asleep.  Rather than the idea that there is some permanent identity that acts as a thread thru all that.  We become nobody-anybody when we sleep ... which could give us access to the ideal worlds of people who are not ourselves when wake.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ ła’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Offline Gregory

Re: How do you imagine the ''absolute nihil''.?
« Reply #26 on: March 10, 2020, 10:22:28 PM »
Nothing comes from nothing.

Offline Baruch

Re: How do you imagine the ''absolute nihil''.?
« Reply #27 on: March 11, 2020, 12:26:00 AM »
Nothing comes from nothing.

Except for the Big Bang of materialism.

Otherwise everything comes from everything.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ ła’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Re: How do you imagine the ''absolute nihil''.?
« Reply #28 on: March 11, 2020, 01:28:24 PM »
No one who knows what they're talking about says the big bang came from "nothing."
God Not Found
"There is a sucker born-again every minute." - C. Spellman

Offline Baruch

Re: How do you imagine the ''absolute nihil''.?
« Reply #29 on: March 11, 2020, 04:28:30 PM »
No one who knows what they're talking about says the big bang came from "nothing."

Which of the infinite multiverses are you from? ;-)
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ ła’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.