When logic is cruel...

[Gregory]

When logic is cruel, it's against common sense.

[Sal1981]

Common sense is a myth.

[SGOS]

When logic is cruel, it's against common sense.

I always cringe when I hear the phrase, "Lets think outside the box."  If not carried to an extreme it can be helpful at times, but logic is still necessary, and logic is a BOX.  A set for rules to test the validity of a claim.  It boxes us in, and some people hate that.  It limits their ability to make up shit.

[Draconic Aiur]

When logic is cruel, it's against common sense.

That's why we have ethnics

[Unbeliever]

I always cringe when I hear the phrase, "Lets think outside the box."  If not carried to an extreme it can be helpful at times, but logic is still necessary, and logic is a BOX.  A set for rules to test the validity of a claim.  It boxes us in, and some people hate that.  It limits their ability to make up shit.

Many people "think outside the box" just because they have no idea what's in the box.

[Baruch]

Many people "think outside the box" just because they have no idea what's in the box.

Parable of the fool spooning water with a sieve.

[Gregory]

Common sense is a myth.

Logic is a delusion, what's the difference?

[Hydra009]

I always cringe when I hear the phrase, "Lets think outside the box."  If not carried to an extreme it can be helpful at times, but logic is still necessary, and logic is a BOX.  A set for rules to test the validity of a claim.  It boxes us in, and some people hate that.  It limits their ability to make up shit.

What they think they mean:  "maybe there's a creative, workable solution for this that we're just not seeing."

What they actually mean: "let's let our stupid ideas fly!"

[Gregory]

That's why we have ethnics

Logic predominantly is ethics.

[Baruch]

Logic is a delusion, what's the difference?

Logic, ala Mr Spock, is a fiction.  Real logic is no stronger than the axioms you start with.

[Gregory]

Logic, ala Mr Spock, is a fiction.  Real logic is no stronger than the axioms you start with.

If common sense is not logical, what need is there for logical thinking?

[Baruch]

If common sense is not logical, what need is there for logical thinking?

It was explained above.  Among the intellectual elite, particularly logicians and mathematicians, logic builds consensus and helps you avoid mistakes.  The axioms act as a common anchor that the poindexters can unite behind.  Logic of a non-technical sort, like political oratory advocated by Cicero ... ultimately is a play on words, because the axioms are too fuzzy.  The first proper use of logic was Euclid.  Logic used in politics by Aristotle or the Greek Stoics, failed in the face of Macedonian pikes.

[Gregory]

Evil is twisted logic.

[Baruch]

Evil is twisted logic.

You don't need any rationality or not, for evil.  Evil is negative EQ.  Lack of sympathy and empathy.

[Gregory]

Without a brain, you have no heart.