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When logic is cruel...
« on: March 02, 2020, 08:09:37 PM »
When logic is cruel, it's against common sense.

Online Sal1981

Re: When logic is cruel...
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2020, 06:18:53 AM »
Common sense is a myth.
"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool" --- Richard P. Feynman

Offline SGOS

Re: When logic is cruel...
« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2020, 09:13:13 AM »
When logic is cruel, it's against common sense.
I always cringe when I hear the phrase, "Lets think outside the box."  If not carried to an extreme it can be helpful at times, but logic is still necessary, and logic is a BOX.  A set for rules to test the validity of a claim.  It boxes us in, and some people hate that.  It limits their ability to make up shit.

Offline Draconic Aiur

Re: When logic is cruel...
« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2020, 09:49:57 AM »
When logic is cruel, it's against common sense.

That's why we have ethnics

Re: When logic is cruel...
« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2020, 01:27:21 PM »
I always cringe when I hear the phrase, "Lets think outside the box."  If not carried to an extreme it can be helpful at times, but logic is still necessary, and logic is a BOX.  A set for rules to test the validity of a claim.  It boxes us in, and some people hate that.  It limits their ability to make up shit.

Many people "think outside the box" just because they have no idea what's in the box.
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Offline Baruch

Re: When logic is cruel...
« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2020, 07:51:57 PM »
Many people "think outside the box" just because they have no idea what's in the box.

Parable of the fool spooning water with a sieve.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ ła’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't to that.

Re: When logic is cruel...
« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2020, 11:18:07 PM »
Common sense is a myth.

Logic is a delusion, what's the difference?

Offline Hydra009

Re: When logic is cruel...
« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2020, 12:25:23 AM »
I always cringe when I hear the phrase, "Lets think outside the box."  If not carried to an extreme it can be helpful at times, but logic is still necessary, and logic is a BOX.  A set for rules to test the validity of a claim.  It boxes us in, and some people hate that.  It limits their ability to make up shit.
What they think they mean:  "maybe there's a creative, workable solution for this that we're just not seeing."

What they actually mean: "let's let our stupid ideas fly!"

Re: When logic is cruel...
« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2020, 02:45:39 AM »
That's why we have ethnics

Logic predominantly is ethics.
« Last Edit: March 04, 2020, 08:49:13 PM by Gregory »

Offline Baruch

Re: When logic is cruel...
« Reply #9 on: March 04, 2020, 06:50:05 AM »
Logic is a delusion, what's the difference?

Logic, ala Mr Spock, is a fiction.  Real logic is no stronger than the axioms you start with.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ ła’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't to that.

Re: When logic is cruel...
« Reply #10 on: March 04, 2020, 09:00:20 PM »
Logic, ala Mr Spock, is a fiction.  Real logic is no stronger than the axioms you start with.

If common sense is not logical, what need is there for logical thinking?
« Last Edit: March 04, 2020, 09:04:14 PM by Gregory »

Offline Baruch

Re: When logic is cruel...
« Reply #11 on: March 04, 2020, 11:27:14 PM »
If common sense is not logical, what need is there for logical thinking?

It was explained above.  Among the intellectual elite, particularly logicians and mathematicians, logic builds consensus and helps you avoid mistakes.  The axioms act as a common anchor that the poindexters can unite behind.  Logic of a non-technical sort, like political oratory advocated by Cicero ... ultimately is a play on words, because the axioms are too fuzzy.  The first proper use of logic was Euclid.  Logic used in politics by Aristotle or the Greek Stoics, failed in the face of Macedonian pikes.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ ła’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't to that.

Re: When logic is cruel...
« Reply #12 on: March 08, 2020, 04:54:13 AM »
Evil is twisted logic.

Offline Baruch

Re: When logic is cruel...
« Reply #13 on: March 08, 2020, 10:18:06 AM »
Evil is twisted logic.

You don't need any rationality or not, for evil.  Evil is negative EQ.  Lack of sympathy and empathy.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ ła’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't to that.

Re: When logic is cruel...
« Reply #14 on: March 08, 2020, 09:51:58 PM »
Without a brain, you have no heart.