Author Topic: Is free will an illusion?  (Read 930 times)

Offline Baruch

Re: Is free will an illusion?
« Reply #15 on: March 01, 2020, 06:55:14 PM »
You "peel" a banana, bells "peal."

You porn your way, I porn my way ;-p
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Azee’ ła’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Offline Baruch

Re: Is free will an illusion?
« Reply #16 on: March 01, 2020, 06:56:21 PM »
Define "free will".

Free Will -> See free lunch, if your name is Bill
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ ła’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Re: Is free will an illusion?
« Reply #17 on: March 02, 2020, 01:42:17 PM »
"FIRE AT WILL!"


"OK, but which one is Will?"
God Not Found
"There is a sucker born-again every minute." - C. Spellman

Offline Gregory

Re: Is free will an illusion?
« Reply #18 on: March 08, 2020, 04:45:18 AM »
I am entirely responsible for my actions. I always choose the best even when I choose poorly.

Offline Baruch

Re: Is free will an illusion?
« Reply #19 on: March 08, 2020, 10:20:13 AM »
I am entirely responsible for my actions. I always choose the best even when I choose poorly.

An good example of semantics crawling up its own ass.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ ła’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Online aitm

Re: Is free will an illusion?
« Reply #20 on: March 08, 2020, 07:17:42 PM »
I am entirely responsible for my actions. I always choose the best even when I choose poorly.
While that in itself is true. We as well must react to the actions of others, sometimes being forced to do what we would never do if not provoked. This is why we have juries. They try to decide if we were “in our right frame of mind”. Anyone who has been in combat or in a terrorizing frightening event will telll you that we were not in our right frame of mind.
A humans desire to live is exceeded only by their willingness to die for another. Even god cannot equal this magnificent sacrifice. No god has the right to judge them.-first tenant of the Panotheust

Re: Is free will an illusion?
« Reply #21 on: March 09, 2020, 05:39:30 PM »
I am entirely responsible for my actions. I always choose the best even when I choose poorly.

Until something happens to damage your brain, and then you'll be unable to "choose" to do what your brain can no longer do.
God Not Found
"There is a sucker born-again every minute." - C. Spellman

Offline Gregory

Re: Is free will an illusion?
« Reply #22 on: March 10, 2020, 03:34:13 AM »
While that in itself is true. We as well must react to the actions of others, sometimes being forced to do what we would never do if not provoked. This is why we have juries. They try to decide if we were “in our right frame of mind”. Anyone who has been in combat or in a terrorizing frightening event will telll you that we were not in our right frame of mind.

If I don't consider others, I am not being responsible.

Online aitm

Re: Is free will an illusion?
« Reply #23 on: March 10, 2020, 09:21:37 AM »
If I don't consider others, I am not being responsible.
If you could truly do that, you would not be able to leave the house, for every scenario of possible interference from another must be considered, from a wayward dog to a distracted driver, falling airplane, collapsing bridge, disease, thieves...and Girl Scouts. One cannot expect the unexpected, nor prepare for it. We can only prepare for the expected, even though unlikely.
A humans desire to live is exceeded only by their willingness to die for another. Even god cannot equal this magnificent sacrifice. No god has the right to judge them.-first tenant of the Panotheust

Offline Baruch

Re: Is free will an illusion?
« Reply #24 on: March 10, 2020, 11:40:32 AM »
If you could truly do that, you would not be able to leave the house, for every scenario of possible interference from another must be considered, from a wayward dog to a distracted driver, falling airplane, collapsing bridge, disease, thieves...and Girl Scouts. One cannot expect the unexpected, nor prepare for it. We can only prepare for the expected, even though unlikely.

Gregory is glib and tends to rely on quotes a bit much.  Perhaps Gregory is a Jain, who even avoids stepping on a bug?  One must approach the day awake and confident, to handle both the expected and the unexpected. 
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ ła’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.